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59892Re: [existlist] Re: was brain drain/ thought

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  • hermit crab
    Jun 13, 2013
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      Human experience is whatever is being experienced. I hear a train. a fan,
      chattering birds, and distant thunder as I type. I feel a cool breeze,
      smell fresh air. I reach for my coffee and take a sip. It's that simple.
      Ah, now some pouring rain. Mmm, the air smells good. You are talking
      about some *outside world* but there is no inside/outside really. It's
      all one thing. I'm thinking that cool word *torrential* now because it's
      really coming down now. Like cats and dogs.


      On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:52 PM, eduardathome <yeoman@...> wrote:

      > Human experience is a matter of how you react to the outside world. In as
      > much as all reactions are mental states, it becomes important put them in
      > the correct context. We cannot monitor our neural processes, but that does
      > not mean that they do not occur. Neither does mean that your reaction
      > isn�t weighed and directed by previous experience. Existentialism, as far
      > as I understand it, is about mental states. It is your view of the outside
      > world and this view is a brain thing.
      > eduard
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: hermit crab
      > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 4:13 PM
      > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [existlist] Re: was brain drain/ thought
      > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Mary <josephson45r@...> wrote:
      > > Society and people are mutually implicating, but this wholeness doesn't
      > > preclude activism with its setbacks and victories which engender such
      > > unfolding. I think ideals are what drive progress. I'm not a fan of
      > > withdrawal, but to each his own. If we are implicated, withdrawal also
      > > affects the unfolding. As Sartre said, even not choosing is a choice with
      > > consequences. Camus reminded us of limits and suggested adopting an
      > absurd
      > > logic toward change. The causal loop between individual and society
      > > indicates to me that we have both the freedom and the responsibility to
      > > act. So what this means, pace Eduard, is that I study the philosophy of
      > > thought rather than the science of neurons.
      > >
      > > ===I have been thinking quite a lot about thought as I remembered
      > polymath
      > Douglas Hofstadter a few days ago and read excerpts from his books, watched
      > him discuss thought on youtube and so forth. I see that it is possible to
      > watch my own thinking processes but I cannot know a thing about my personal
      > neurons (what they are doing) and Existentialism is about concrete human
      > experience.
      > DH sees analogy as the core of cognition:
      > http://prelectur.stanford.edu/lecturers/hofstadter/analogy.html
      > http://onpoint.wbur.org/2013/04/26/the-brain-as-analogy-machine
      > http://www.amazon.com/Surfaces-Essences-Analogy-Fuel-Thinking/dp/0465018475
      > hc

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