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59615Re: [existlist] Re: Guantanamo

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  • Peter ciccariello
    Mar 26, 2013

      I think that is the point. There is no logic, reason or rationale here...
      it is pure and unadulterated repressive absurdity, and for those inmates,
      what is left to do but try to regain a form of dignity as per Fanon through
      violence. In this case the only remaining target, oneself. I am so troubled
      with this, and cannot help but ponder Kafka's "hunger artist"

      - Peter

      On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Jim <jjimstuart1@...> wrote:

      > **
      > Mary, Wil,
      > This absurd situation where the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay are held
      > outside any state, without being charged, without a trial, without any
      > rights, seems to give empirical support to Giorgio Agamben's idea of the
      > `Homo Sacer' or the `State of Exception' as described in those books of the
      > same name.
      > I have read `Homo Sacer' but I have to admit I struggled to understand it.
      > Agamben seemed to be saying that it was a logical entailment of a state
      > with laws giving rights to its citizens that the law could only be
      > validated if there were human's who had `bare life' as beings outside the
      > law with no rights and no recognition.
      > Going back to Obama � I don't see why he cannot return the unfortunate
      > individuals to their countries of origin � at least one is a British
      > citizen. I would imagine that after eleven years of incarceration and
      > possible torture, they would be broken men, incapable of taking up a life
      > of terrorism.
      > Jim

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