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  • Mary
    Nov 6, 2012
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      Fair and sensible comments but only if they apply universally. I doubt anyone automatically 'embraces' others on the basis of superficiality. That is simply foolhardy. In other words, are you as sceptical of all white English speaking people?

      Mary

      --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "irvhal" <i99hj@...> wrote:
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      > Mary,
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      > The stuff of art and life is replete with discription and portrayals. Some, but not all, are political; though where the political intrudes, the concept of oppression cuts many ways, and may itself mask resentment and provide justification to disparage and dispossess the virtueous. And there is, of course, xenophobia -- and xenophilia. Depending upon one's disposition, one may associate the former with an abundance of precaution, or the latter with an abundance of the kind of curiosity known to kill the cat. I tend towards precaution until obtaining Nietzsche's threshold familiarity, at which time one can have discreet commerce with some but not all, and to know just which streets one shouldn't tread.
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      > Irvin
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      > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "Mary" <josephson45r@> wrote:
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      > > Irwin,
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      > > Rather condescending to Bill, and I trust you've miscalculated any perceived disconnect between his personal philosophy and election activism. Perhaps you'll win your little tug of war, perhaps not. I know one thing for certain; he's called you a xenophobe, and for that I'm eternally grateful. There's simply no reason to refer to another's superficial physical characteristics unless it's to address oppression, and in this case, voter suppression.
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      > > Mary
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      > > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "irvhal" <i99hj@> wrote:
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      > > > Mary,
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      > > > Rather than conflating philosophy and politiking, it's probably better to let Bill vent his campaign and reserve philosophical discussion for later.
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      > > > All the best,
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      > > > Irvin
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      > > > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "Mary" <josephson45r@> wrote:
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      > > > > I'm trying to understand why you need to refer to someone's skin color and why you require Bill to be fair with his criticisms when you're clearly opposed to the principle of equal opportunity in the first place.
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      > > > > Mary
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      > > > > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "irvhal" <i99hj@> wrote:
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      > > > > > Mary,
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      > > > > > I don't recall a too constant resort to "swarthy," but its use in the "Back to Motive" thread, referencing the petty partisanship of those who "harp on Republican fundamentalist pests, while ignoring swarthy, rabble rousing street preachers among the Democrats" was indeed apropos. Simply stated, an accidental quality common to both a genus and a small, but vulgar subset, needn't impugn the greater (and this subset, I may add, is no less vulgar than rabid white fundamentalists). As to aligning oneself with someone to be rid of racist stereotypes, I'd recommend the eminent black intellectual Thomas Sowell, especially for ridding oneself of the fallacies underlying egalitarian and diversity ideologies.
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      > > > > > Irvin
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      > > > > > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "Mary" <josephson45r@> wrote:
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      > > > > > > Irvin,
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      > > > > > > You constant resort to the term "swarthy" is offensive. Maybe you should align yourself with the Black Republicans in order to rid yourself of of racist stereotypes.
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      > > > > > > Mary
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      > > > > > > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "William" <vize9938@> wrote:
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      > > > > > > > I thought the old call to sword and nobility might bring you out of your comfortable slime. Sturgeon,Gar, ?Your money must be right as you would not join the troglidites out of fancy. You seem to have a real hard on for the Kennedy`s , Why? Did they beat your little sister to death with a five iron? Did your sister refuse to give it up to a kennedy scout? Give us a clew Irvin you don`t have to be so afraid, or do you? Bill
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