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47922Re: The functions of thinking

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  • devogney
    Apr 28, 2009
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      -Wil,
      What do u mean by PC? I know PC is used as an abbreviation of personal computer, but don't understand how that fits in with our discussion.
      Tom


      -- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, eupraxis@... wrote:
      >
      > Tom,
      >
      > Please save me the PC bit, friend.
      >
      > Wil
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: devogney <tsmith17_midsouth1@...>
      > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 1:37 pm
      > Subject: [existlist] Re: The functions of thinking
      >
      >
      >
      > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, eupraxis@ wrote:
      >
      > >
      >
      > Wil,
      >
      > Your saying that my reference to the fact that in many cases studies
      > involving race or sexual differences will be repudiated if they dont
      > adhere to political correctness is pandering, is a great example of
      > what Louise and I are saying. Obviously, the fact that the DNA of most
      > human beings will contain various strands from different racial pools
      > in no way precludes that people can be to a certain extent described as
      > Caucasian, Negro, or Oriental. Certainly, the US is a great melting
      > pot,and more varieties of gene pools are likely to be found than one
      > would find in China, India, or Denmark. Obama describes himself as a
      > mut. We all have some male and female hormones, but that doesn't
      > preclude humnans being classified into male and female.
      >
      >
      >
      > To me the most salient point of your post is the great example to
      > support the viewpoint expressed by Louise and agreed to by me that
      > numerous people with agendas varying from political correctness to
      > expanding the drug war have agendas that will result in a person being
      > accused of pandering if they freely search for truth.
      >
      >
      >
      > Despite the fact that races like any other category are relative rather
      > than absolute, any objective studies will find different abilities and
      > disabilities among DNA pools such as the fact that all Olympic running
      > has been won by people of African descent in the last 20 years or so
      > and that people of Jewish descent comprise 1/4% of the world's
      > population and 28% of the Nobel Prize winners.
      >
      > Tom
      >
      >
      >
      > Tom
      >
      >
      >
      > > Nice pandering. On the level of the genome, the concept of race has
      > no
      >
      > > meaning.
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Wil
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > -----Original Message-----
      >
      > > From: devogney <tsmith17_midsouth1@>
      >
      > > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      >
      > > Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:09 pm
      >
      > > Subject: [existlist] Re: The functions of thinking
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > -Louise,
      >
      > >
      >
      > > I very much agree with your statement Political suppression is
      > ignored
      >
      > > and denied, so that what claims to be science may only be a highly
      >
      > > selective application of focussed intelligence.
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > The results of scientific studies to a large extent will be the
      > results
      >
      > > that the organization funding the study desires.In the US over the
      > last
      >
      > > 35 years or so, a good example is studies on pot smoking funded by
      > the
      >
      > > Drug Enforcement Administration.Any study funded by the DEA that
      > found
      >
      > > anything good about pot would never be published, and certainly the
      >
      > > scientist would have lost a source of future funding. Likewise, any
      >
      > > studies comparing different races or the 2 sexes, if the results come
      >
      > > out wrong will subject the scientist to charges of racism or
      >
      > > sexism.Certainly political and economic factors play a large role in
      >
      > > what studies are done, what criteria are compared, and the
      > conclusions
      >
      > > reached.
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Tom
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > -- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "louise" <hecubatoher@> wrote:
      >
      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > Still attempting to get a purchase on the basics. How to
      >
      > > discriminate different realms of concern. As an example, a recent
      >
      > > reference, the question arising, what is an Anglo-Saxon? This is not
      > a
      >
      > > biological category. However, the further question arises, as to the
      >
      > > superstitious and magical nature of science, to which I have referred
      >
      > > also. Political suppression is ignored and denied, so that what
      > claims
      >
      > > to be science may only be a highly selective application of focussed
      >
      > > intelligence. To become a 'scientist', one must pass certain tests
      > of
      >
      > > social acceptability, which are cultural or quasi-religious, and may
      > be
      >
      > > themselves highly unscientific. What responsibilities are involved
      > in
      >
      > > philosophising? What is the relevance, if any, of courtesy? May one
      >
      > > only be a contemporary existentialist if developing a certain
      > toughness
      >
      > > or dexterity, or does the acquisition of such skill vitiate the
      > quality
      >
      > > of thought itself?
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      > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > Louise
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      > >
      >
      > > >
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      > >
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