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  • eduard at home
    Sep 2, 2003
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      Ed,

      That gets me no further than what we started out with. If
      postmodernist refers to a literary style, then it must be a
      style in a particular time. Otherwise, why use a word which
      is a combination of two other terms that relate to time??
      But that's Ok. It would appear to me that the word is being
      used for affect rather than to aid definition.

      eduard

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      Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 2:41 PM
      Subject: Re: [existlist] Post modernist


      > In a message dated 9/2/2003 1:06:20 PM Central Standard
      Time,
      > yeoman@... writes:
      > The use of the word, however, is a problem. If you say
      that
      > someone is a "postmodernist", then their views are in
      > advance of someone who might be a modernist. Thus
      > "modernist" is not today, but in the past. So one might
      > also ask when did this modernist exist -- in the 90s, 70
      or
      > perhaps in the 50s.
      >
      > Actually, the term "postmodernist" is mostly used for
      > architecture in relation to the modernist movement in the
      > 1930s. Post modernist would then be in the 40s and 50s.
      >
      > But that still leaves the term as used within philosophy.
      I
      > asked the same question on another philosophy list and
      never
      > got an answer.
      >
      > eduard
      > I've heard several examples of postmodern architecture
      referred to as
      > "modern" in common parlance simply because they are
      recent. In discussions like the
      > one at hand, it's just used as an Orwellian shorthand for
      "something I don't
      > like."
      >
      > In literature, postmodern refers to the reaction against
      the fragmented and
      > isolated narrative and lyric forms employed by writers
      like Eliot and Wilder;
      > sometimes it's almost a parody of them, like Catch-22 or
      Slaughterhouse Five;
      > generally it's manifested in a return to more identifiably
      linear narrative
      > forms with recognition of the audience and interpretive
      community in which it
      > will be experienced. Alice Walker's Third Life of Grange
      Copeland or Don
      > Dellilo's White Noise are good examples of postmodern lit.
      >
      > Jean Francoise Lyotard's monograph "The Postmodern
      Condition" A Report on
      > Knowledge," which is usually published with his essay
      "What is the Postmodern"
      > would probably answer your question much better than I
      can. Published first in
      > Canada, as I recall.
      >
      > Ed Tyler
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