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19705Re: [existlist] Faith and Existentialism

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  • David Leon
    May 2, 2003
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "yeoman" <yeoman@...>
      To: <existlist@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 6:53 PM
      Subject: Re: [existlist] Faith and Existentialism

      > Dave,
      > I don't know what you mean by "reductionist terms". It is a
      > matter of basic English. By adding an adjective you modify
      > the base term and create a subset. If you say you have a
      > red wagon, then you have a subset of wagons -- those which
      > are red.
      > Faith is not Existentialism, and Existentialism is not
      > faith. To say that there is such a thing as Christian
      > Existentialism or Scientific Existentialism, or Islamic
      > Existentialism implies that these Existentialism are somehow
      > different from each other.

      And therefore...a red wagon, let me see, is not a wagon?

      If you'd never ever ever ever seen or heard directly about or thought of
      somebody that might appear like "a black person" and you were "white" (and
      knock off a few hundred years of history if it helps somehow), then would
      you instantly think "Oh yeah! He's just a person!" upon seeing one? ..It'd
      be a little in question who he was, how he worked, at the very LEAST in the
      moment. But you'd be (logically) required (not politically) to expand your
      scope and experience of what a human can be.


      > eduard
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "David Leon" <dave@...>
      > To: <existlist@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 4:18 PM
      > Subject: Re: [existlist] Faith and Existentialism
      > > Well, for one thing, Eduard, you dont have to think of it
      > in reductionist
      > > terms. Maybe something is further delineated by the term
      > by ADDING
      > > something. You could look at it that way. For instance,
      > someone is trying to
      > > describe a such-and-so existentialism because they are
      > getting more than
      > > just the basic or broad existentialism out of their
      > thoughts, and they
      > > happen to be talking about that more - an extension of
      > existentialism, or
      > > even where they personally think that existentialism could
      > head, given a
      > > deeper appreciation of whatever is indicated by the term
      > they are attaching
      > > to existentialism.
      > >
      > > In other words, you are saying that some attached term
      > seems as if it must
      > > then "change" something about existentialism. For one
      > thing, maybe we can
      > > have a basic existentialism which doesn't much change, but
      > is ADDED TO in
      > > different types, applications, and forms (extensions) of
      > where different
      > > thinkers have a vision for existentialism relating to. And
      > further, then,
      > > studying and learning more about different deliniations of
      > existentialism
      > > can, in turn, help you/us to better and better understand
      > what that basic
      > > existentialism may be to WHICH we can add and foray and
      > extend in our
      > > visions and innovations (etc.).
      > >
      > > Dave
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