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  • Mary Grace Riguer
    Apr 5, 2001
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      Why can't there be common nature among humans? Surely, as we belong to the
      same species, there must be particular characteristics we all share.



      At 01:40 AM 4/6/01 +0000, you wrote:

      >About your human nature discussion:
      >
      >Edward,
      >
      >I think there's been confusion concerning the meaning of the concepts
      >used.
      >What do we mean by `human nature'?
      >
      >Let's say that `human nature' stands for a number of characteristics,
      >which all humans share in common. At the same time, you know,
      >existentialism says that every individual is unique.
      >
      >So the two (common nature <--> unique individual) contradict.
      >
      >The other point is that even I myself am different at different
      >moments ­ my emotional state, for instance, changes. And it's me ­
      >not some predefined nature of mine ­ which is responsible for that
      >change.
      >
      >Diana
      >
      >--- In existlist@y..., "Edward Alf" <ealf@s...> wrote:
      > > Richard et al,
      > >
      > > ok ... i will try to explain and prove it to you ...
      > >
      > > my comment was preceded by a sentence so that the full comment
      >was, " i
      > > think that one could have an inclination towards existentialism and
      >still
      > > believe in human nature ... if only for reason that humans have a
      >nature and
      > > one might as well believe that this is the case ...
      > >
      > > this was in response to the question of, "Just wondering if one can
      >be of
      > > existentialist leanings and believe in human nature."
      > >
      > > i am not saying that there are obvious parts of human nature ...
      >all im
      > > saying is that there is such a thing as human nature ... i dont
      >think that
      > > even you are disagreeing with that ... a nature which is inclined
      >towards
      > > violence, is still a nature and since Charles Manson is a human,
      >one has to
      > > conclude that he has a human nature ... and if Charles Manson were
      >to adopt
      > > the philosophy of existentialism, then we could say that there is a
      >person
      > > who has existentialist leanings and that we also believe there is a
      >human
      > > nature ...
      > >
      > > see ... that was not too hard .. and i didnt even get into the
      >subject of
      > > blue clams ...
      > >
      > > have fun ....
      > >
      > > eduard
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: <thebookdoc@a...>
      > > To: <existlist@y...>
      > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:41 AM
      > > Subject: [existlist] Re: Human nature grown in pots and planted
      >beside the
      > > great meat bush...
      > >
      > >
      > > > << if only for reason that humans have a nature and one might as
      >well
      > > believe
      > > > that this is the case >>
      > > >
      > > > Eduard,
      > > >
      > > > If you would be so kind as to explain why this is so and prove it
      >to me.
      > > > Please don't say "because it is obvious!" As if there was obvious
      >parts of
      > > > human nature, then there would not be people like Charles Manson
      >and a
      > > nature
      > > > that is inclined toward violence.
      > > >
      > > > And if you wish to brush that aside by saying he was crazy and
      >does not
      > > > count, then it is my contention that it is the nature of all
      >humans to be
      > > > "crazy." And we would also be back to a discussion concerning
      >blue clams
      > > and
      > > > how-manys...
      > > >
      > > > Richard
      >
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