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  • ncxds
    Which ministry is that -- Actually I belive my links are the most diverse available. No Exodus affiliation is NOT reuired which group do you refer to??
    Message 1 of 2 , Aug 1, 2002
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      Which ministry is that -- Actually I belive my links are the most
      diverse available. No Exodus affiliation is NOT reuired which
      group do you refer to??

      --Alan

      --- In exgaydiscussionboard@y..., "KEITH BRENNER" <rasillon1@h...>
      wrote:
      > by the way alan why isnt the longest running internet ministry to
      gay men
      > not in your links? is non exodus ministries unwelcomed > feeling
      hurt
      >
      >
      > >From: ncxds <no_reply@y...>
      > >Reply-To: exgaydiscussionboard@y...
      > >To: exgaydiscussionboard@y...
      > >Subject: [ExGDBd] Re: New here. I need help.
      > >Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 03:04:36 -0000
      > >
      > >I agree with the last post, you need to get him in a support
      group -- at
      > >least let him to call and get his questions answered. You can
      get ideas
      > >for ministries in his local area from my home page (
      > >http://geocities.com/exgaylinks ) or you can post his approximate
      location
      > >(state/country) here and I will post minsitries in his area.
      > >
      > >You are wise not to want to go down that road again. However,
      perhaps God
      > >may be telling you there are some unhealed areas still needing to
      be
      > >addressed or some bonds that need to be broken. These "buttons"
      you feel
      > >that might be "pushed" could be a wake up call -- God may WANT you
      to
      > >revisit some of these areas to further your healing. Pray about
      it and get
      > >godly counsel to see what God is realy showing you in this.
      > >
      > >Thanks for sharing !!
      > >
      > >-- Alan
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >--- In exgaydiscussionboard@y..., "thedailys" <thedailys@g...>
      wrote:
      > > > OK. First off. Let me explain that I am an ex-gay. From my 5th
      grade
      > > > year,through my senior year in high school, I lived as a closet
      > > > homosexual. Then on May 31st, 1986 being on the verge of
      suicide, and
      > > > being fed up with the way I was living, I gave my life over to
      > > > Christ, and he took that lifestyle away from me. SO, that being
      said,
      > > > the help that I need is first for my best friend Steve. Steve
      and I
      > > > were in the Navy on the same ship together. From November 1988-
      June
      > > > 1991 I and Steve became best friends. One day when we were
      together
      > > > in the city of Olonapo Philipines, at the Christian Service Mens
      > > > Center out side of the then Subic Bay Naval Base, he confessed
      that
      > > > one time he had a gay relationship in his teens that lasted 6
      months.
      > > > He also told me that I was the first person that he had ever
      told
      > > > this to. He knows the Lord, and has admitted that this is sin.
      > > > Well, In June of 91, I left the Navy, moved 2,200 miles
      away,
      > > > got married, and after 11 years Steve and I are still friends.
      Then
      > > > He left the Navy in 1997 I think, and stayed where he was. Well,
      > > > After a few letters that he wrote me, and a few phone calls
      later, He
      > > > would tell me in those letters, and phone calls, that there was
      > > > something that he had been struggleing with for quite some
      time. I
      > > > imediatly though that it was homosexuality. Well, about 2 weeks
      ago,
      > > > I found out that to be true when I talked to him on the phone.
      > > > Well, I must say that he has done the first hing, which
      is
      > > > admitting that he has a problem, by telling me that he has
      > > > been "struggling" with it. And he has also admitted that he
      needs
      > > > help. So, it's not something that he is comftorable with but
      he is
      > > > addicted to it.
      > > > Well, knowing that I had once been through it, he asked
      me
      > > > how did I get out of it? I then told him that with me, it was a
      > > > gradual proccess. When I gave my life over to Christ, he took
      away my
      > > > sin, but the thoughts of the " acts " were still plagueing me.
      > > > Haunting me and tormenting me . Even well into my marriage.
      > > > BUT....Like a cancer that gets treated with kemotherapy, and
      > > > medicine, It slowly goes away. after much treatment. Or you migh
      > > > consider this analogy instead. When we are sick, we go to a
      Doctor.
      > > > who gives us a prescription. Well, Jesus is our Doctor. And the
      > > > prescriptions are this....Prayer, fellowship, the word, and
      worship.
      > > > Our sickness is our cancer is our sin. And we all need to as
      > > > christians, to fill up on these prescriptions to live a more
      > > > spiritualy healthy life. We need to constantly got to the Lord
      for
      > > > refills. We need to constantly seek those who are taking these
      > > > prescriptions ( i.e. our brothers and sisters in Christ ) in
      > > > fellowship, we need to start to hitting our knees, in prayer,
      and
      > > > confessing our sin to God who is the only one who can clense us
      from
      > > > our sin. We need to open the word of God and read it and to
      study it
      > > > and to take it to heart. And we need to attend a bible only,
      born
      > > > again believing church, and worship or Lord and praise him in
      song.
      > > > You see, the more I got of these thing in my life, the
      > > > smaller that cancer, sickness, sin became. Today my though life
      is
      > > > much better. But when I spoke to Steve on the phone the last
      time,
      > > > and he confessed what I had alraedy known, through a spirit of
      > > > discernment. After I hung up the phone with him, something
      happend
      > > > that hadn't happened in a very long time. For a very brief
      moment, my
      > > > mind was flodded with those thoughs of that lifestyle again.
      Afer
      > > > about 1 or 2 min, I quickly rebuked tham, and cried unto God for
      > > > mercy and wisdom.
      > > > People, here is MY problem. It has been 16 years since
      I was
      > > > removed from that lifestyle, and It took years for the toughts
      to
      > > > fade away into oblivian. I need wisdom to know what to say to
      Steve
      > > > who lives 2,200 miles awy, and haven't seen in 11 years. While
      not
      > > > bringing up those thoughts into my life. I am very
      heterossexual. My
      > > > wife and I have been married for over 10 years now, and I am
      > > > absolutly CRAZY about her. But how does a former gay, witness
      to a
      > > > struggling gay without being haunted by the thoughts of his
      former
      > > > lifestyle? It is just a very delicate situation that I am in.
      There
      > > > have been only 3 men whom I can say that I love like a brother,
      and
      > > > one of them is Steve. I owe him my life. I feel as if I
      wouldn't be
      > > > here married to my wife, if it weren't for Steve. He has been a
      great
      > > > friend. And it hurts me to see him suffer like this.
      > > > Any advice that you can give me is greatly appriciated.
      > > > Love in Christ, Eric.
      > >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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