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22815Re: [ExGDBd] ???Testosterone???

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  • ctickle777
    Jan 6, 2008
      Hey Tom,

      Quick question for you - did this research suggest that elevated
      testosterone (which may be the result of too much Vitamin E)
      actually leads to aggressive sexual tendencies? I just wanted to
      make sure I understand.

      This book sounds really interesting. I also have another question
      that I wanted to address since we're on this topic. I know a handful
      of people (all males) who have SSA. All of them expressed to me that
      they were teased and labeled "f**" or another similar term either
      during latent adolescence or sometime during college, when
      their "manhood" is really blossoming. Could the environmental labels
      also affect one's hormones, or even bring about one's "acceptance"
      of his/her homosexuality? I just find it really odd that all of
      these men were teased in the same way and prior to this experience,
      all four of them say they were attracted to both females and males
      but that the "name-calling" in part led them to believe that they
      must be "gay" since it appeared so obvious to everyone. Is there any
      validity to this? I'm just stumped b/c I find this to be a very
      interesting commonality.


      --- In exgaydiscussionboard@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Morey
      <moreytom@...> wrote:
      > Dear p_csilen,
      > A great book, called "Homosexuality and the Politics
      > of Truth" by Dr. Jeffrey Satinover gives an accurate
      > overview of the research concerning the possibility of
      > any hormonal influences on same sex attractions (SSA)
      > in one of its chapters in the causation section of the
      > book.
      > In addition, after having done a term paper in one of
      > my neuropsych classes from the early 90's on this very
      > issue, I can reassure you that if there is any DIRECT
      > influences on just homosexual behavior, in itself, and
      > not significantly altering the direction of one's
      > sexual behavior, it is due rather to having too much
      > testosterone, and/or its derivative, alpha-tocopherol,
      > rather than not enough. This is found to be true not
      > only among animals, but also those who take
      > performance-enhancing steroidal drugs! Actually, it is
      > more indicative of just a heightened frequency of
      > aggressive and sexual behavior, and not just
      > homosexual acts.
      > As for any possible INDIRECT, or predispositional
      > influences, there is particular theoretical aspects of
      > the Geschwind theory, among others, that only during
      > the later prenatal stages of growth, hormonalization
      > of cortex development of the brain does indeed have a
      > bearing on personality and specializaton of abilities,
      > which may lead then to homosexual inclinational
      > development when it is concomitant with the necessary
      > and classic psychosexual influences from one's
      > familial environment. It is believed that more
      > testosteronal-like neurochemical effects lead to more
      > specialization of the brain (i.e., in general,
      > sociobiologists state that males are believed to be
      > more likely to have less development in verbal regions
      > of the cortex and more in spatial relations than
      > females). In general, females are believed by them to
      > have more of an integrated, or neurochemically
      > consolidated, cortical system. And, studies concerning
      > specialization of abilities and tasks do seem to
      > indicate that self-identified SSA'd adult males are
      > much more like their female counterparts, rather than
      > other males. But, other specialists in the field say
      > that this may be because of post-natal, acquired
      > behavior, even in our adulthood, since our behaviors
      > do indeed continually have significant effect on
      > various aspects of the brain. Plus, there was no
      > significant differences found between self-identified
      > SSA's women and other women, nor significant
      > similarities between SSA'd women and men in general.
      > It does appear that it is widely accepted by those in
      > neuropsychology that particular hormonal effects on
      > the brain rather have alot more to do with
      > hermaphroditism and other biologically based sexual
      > disorders, and not as much on psychosexual
      > development.
      > I hope this helps.
      > Blessings,
      > Tom
      > --- p_csilen <p_csilen@...> wrote:
      > > I saw my doctor today, and I got back the results of
      > > my blood work.
      > > Except for my triglicerides being a little too high
      > > everything looked
      > > pretty good. There was one result that stood out. My
      > > testosterone
      > > levels were excedingly low. My doctor said that this
      > > might or might
      > > not be a result of my malfunctioning pancrius, but
      > > it has a lot to do
      > > with my inability to lose weight. So, she gave me a
      > > testosterone
      > > shot. I asked my doctor if I could have had low
      > > testosterone levels
      > > all of my life. She said yes. I also told my doctor
      > > that I had been a
      > > part of the gay live for twenty years, and asked if
      > > this could be a
      > > contributing factor? She told me that there are
      > > different schools of
      > > thought on this matter, but it is certainly a
      > > possibility. My doctor
      > > was very impressed over the fact that I had left the
      > > life, and it
      > > turned out that she was a Christian too. We
      > > discussed the situation
      > > in great length. She told me that The Lord has
      > > forgiven and forgotten
      > > the sins, and its time that I do the same. She's
      > > right. That is
      > > easier said than done when I can't be out in public
      > > or watch TV
      > > without finding myself cruising.
      > >
      > > But I wonder. Could there be any credence to the
      > > hormone level
      > > theory, or is it what I have been told all my
      > > Christian life. "This
      > > is God's judgement against Him. Therefore I am
      > > getting my just
      > > deserts!"
      > >
      > > I have come to a place in life where I have had to
      > > accept that I will
      > > always be attracted to males, and this is not going
      > > to go away. I
      > > have even come to the point where in my prayers I
      > > have thanked The
      > > Lord for allowing this to happen, and to thank Him
      > > for His
      > > forgivness. It is still a struggle. I would welcome
      > > your feedback.
      > > Pardon my bad spelling. I never went to medical
      > > school. God bless you.
      > >
      > >
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