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  • Thomas Morey
    Jun 1, 2006
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      Thanks, bubbadave. I think your input here has been
      invaluable. Btw, is that what you want us to call you?


      --- David Arakelian <bubbadave3@...> wrote:

      > You're right. I should have just said that the
      > views were too extreme +
      > left it at that.
      >
      > On 6/1/06, Thomas Morey <moreytom@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Dear sabato26,
      > >
      > > IMO, if the sodomy laws were actually placed back
      > on
      > > the state books, they'd rarely, if ever, be
      > enforced,
      > > partly due to what bubbadave mentioned (some
      > states
      > > still do have them, but they are considered
      > > superfluous in the legal practice, and even a
      > nuisance
      > > to the legal process. In addition, state courts
      > are
      > > now just too intimidated to enforce them any
      > longer.
      > > They are considered anachronistic in nature, ever
      > > since the latest and final Texas sodomy case went
      > to
      > > its Supreme Court, where it was determined that
      > the
      > > sodomy laws were useless in our contemporary
      > society,
      > > citing privacy issues and the human individual
      > right
      > > to choose between mutually consenting adults as
      > taking
      > > precedence). (BTW, bubbadave, please be a little
      > less
      > > reactionary though, and little more respectful and
      > > concilatory in tone, to your fellow ExGDBd
      > members!
      > > Thanks :-))
      > >
      > > Any violation such as sodomy would be considered a
      > > minor offense, somewhat on the level of
      > prostitutes
      > > being arrested for street soliciting, who are then
      > > released immediately after being processed and
      > fined.
      > > In the recent past, many law enforcement personnel
      > > have resorted to falling back on implementing the
      > > enforcement of these "outdated" laws, such as in
      > cases
      > > that they have apprehended perceived violators of
      > more
      > > serious crimes, such as with a felonious assault
      > or
      > > drug trafficking, but then, for whatever reason,
      > law
      > > enforcement personnel can't show forth sufficient
      > > evidence and/or show probable cause. So, they book
      > 'em
      > > for a misdemeanor instead, such as with sodomistic
      > > activity, so as not to look as though they were
      > being
      > > discriminatory, or presumptuous, and a bumbling
      > idiot.
      > > This is what I believe occurred with the Texas
      > case.
      > > Police raided the wrong house after they received
      > > calls complaining about noise and illegal drug
      > usage.
      > > They barged in on two men right in the middle of
      > > performing anal intercourse, and it was then that
      > the
      > > police realized they were in the wrong apartment.
      > >
      > > I really do believe that its possible for these
      > laws
      > > to once again be relevant and enforced one day in
      > the
      > > USA. However, this could only happen if nationwide
      > > church revival and societal renewal would occur,
      > > resulting eventually in cultural transformation,
      > or
      > > "Christianization", such as what happened almost
      > 200
      > > years ago during the period of the American Great
      > > Awakening. But, this would mean that the frequency
      > and
      > > severity of all crimes, including recreational
      > drug
      > > violations, all forms of violence, as well as any
      > > illicit expression of sexual behavior would
      > > neccessarily plummet. In addition, I would only
      > want
      > > this to occur if law enforcers would intend on
      > > prosecuting all sex crimes, including fornication
      > and
      > > adultery, and enforce in equal measure, so as not
      > to
      > > pinpoint and revile one criminal act over another
      > and
      > > scapegoat one violator over another.
      > >
      > > Blessings,
      > >
      > > Tom
      > >
      > > --- David Arakelian <bubbadave3@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > > Are you out of your mind? Aren't the court
      > systems
      > > > backed up enough as it
      > > > is? So what of the person who's trying to
      > become
      > > > exgay who slips up? lock
      > > > them up too?
      > > >
      > > > On 5/31/06, sabato26 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
      > > > wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Would anyone ever consdier making gay sex
      > illegal
      > > > again to help
      > > > > discourage it? Sex offender status for
      > > > homosexuals caught? Too
      > > > > extreme?
      > > > >
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