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  • David Arakelian
    Jun 1, 2006
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      You're right. I should have just said that the views were too extreme +
      left it at that.

      On 6/1/06, Thomas Morey <moreytom@...> wrote:
      >
      > Dear sabato26,
      >
      > IMO, if the sodomy laws were actually placed back on
      > the state books, they'd rarely, if ever, be enforced,
      > partly due to what bubbadave mentioned (some states
      > still do have them, but they are considered
      > superfluous in the legal practice, and even a nuisance
      > to the legal process. In addition, state courts are
      > now just too intimidated to enforce them any longer.
      > They are considered anachronistic in nature, ever
      > since the latest and final Texas sodomy case went to
      > its Supreme Court, where it was determined that the
      > sodomy laws were useless in our contemporary society,
      > citing privacy issues and the human individual right
      > to choose between mutually consenting adults as taking
      > precedence). (BTW, bubbadave, please be a little less
      > reactionary though, and little more respectful and
      > concilatory in tone, to your fellow ExGDBd members!
      > Thanks :-))
      >
      > Any violation such as sodomy would be considered a
      > minor offense, somewhat on the level of prostitutes
      > being arrested for street soliciting, who are then
      > released immediately after being processed and fined.
      > In the recent past, many law enforcement personnel
      > have resorted to falling back on implementing the
      > enforcement of these "outdated" laws, such as in cases
      > that they have apprehended perceived violators of more
      > serious crimes, such as with a felonious assault or
      > drug trafficking, but then, for whatever reason, law
      > enforcement personnel can't show forth sufficient
      > evidence and/or show probable cause. So, they book 'em
      > for a misdemeanor instead, such as with sodomistic
      > activity, so as not to look as though they were being
      > discriminatory, or presumptuous, and a bumbling idiot.
      > This is what I believe occurred with the Texas case.
      > Police raided the wrong house after they received
      > calls complaining about noise and illegal drug usage.
      > They barged in on two men right in the middle of
      > performing anal intercourse, and it was then that the
      > police realized they were in the wrong apartment.
      >
      > I really do believe that its possible for these laws
      > to once again be relevant and enforced one day in the
      > USA. However, this could only happen if nationwide
      > church revival and societal renewal would occur,
      > resulting eventually in cultural transformation, or
      > "Christianization", such as what happened almost 200
      > years ago during the period of the American Great
      > Awakening. But, this would mean that the frequency and
      > severity of all crimes, including recreational drug
      > violations, all forms of violence, as well as any
      > illicit expression of sexual behavior would
      > neccessarily plummet. In addition, I would only want
      > this to occur if law enforcers would intend on
      > prosecuting all sex crimes, including fornication and
      > adultery, and enforce in equal measure, so as not to
      > pinpoint and revile one criminal act over another and
      > scapegoat one violator over another.
      >
      > Blessings,
      >
      > Tom
      >
      > --- David Arakelian <bubbadave3@...> wrote:
      >
      > > Are you out of your mind? Aren't the court systems
      > > backed up enough as it
      > > is? So what of the person who's trying to become
      > > exgay who slips up? lock
      > > them up too?
      > >
      > > On 5/31/06, sabato26 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Would anyone ever consdier making gay sex illegal
      > > again to help
      > > > discourage it? Sex offender status for
      > > homosexuals caught? Too
      > > > extreme?
      > > >
      > > >
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