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Re: [ExExGayMinistry] Re: To the List Owner/Moderators of ExExGayMinistry's Yahoo Group

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  • Pete Zayonce
    Hi Norm, I agree with you - no matter what level of privacy is added to a group, there is usually lurkers who are there gathering whatever information they
    Message 1 of 6 , Nov 28, 2009
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      Hi Norm,

      I agree with you - no matter what level of "privacy" is added to a group,
      there is usually lurkers who are there gathering whatever information they
      want to gather.

      It is sad that people feel they can no longer as a question, or post what's
      on their mind. Yahoo give the ability for your email to be hidden, and if
      you use a name, then no one really knows if it's a real name or not.

      Norm, thanks for creating this group, and I hope that people will still
      continue to use it.


      Pete Zayonce (yes, that's my real name - Google or Facebook me) :-)

      2009/11/26 nojam75 <nojam75@...>

      > Thank you for sharing and, again, I am sorry that you somehow understood
      > messages here were private. I have revised the home page message to clarify
      > that this is a public group.
      > I have no plans of making this group private. One of my concerns about
      > going private is that it will make the group less accessible. Such a change
      > will force lurkers and those merely questioning the ex-gay movement to
      > become a 'member' of an ex-exgay group just to read messages. Even when I
      > first started questioning the ex-gay movement, I doubt that I would have
      > actively joined an ex-exgay group. So, I believe there is a value to keeping
      > online discussions open and accessible for lurkers like myself.
      > I certainly understand the need to discuss deeply personal matters --
      > especially related to reconciling faith and sexuality. However, I think
      > there is a meaningful way to openly and anonymously share our struggles
      > without disclosing names and identifying details.
      > Also, as I mentioned previously, making the group private gives a false
      > sense of security where none exists. As moderator, I have no way of assuring
      > who the 300+ members of the group are or what they will do with the
      > information posted (and e-mailed). As with any electronic information, there
      > is no assurance of privacy. Yahoo!'s code could become defective, servers
      > can be hacked, and malicious viruses could collect information.
      > Norm!
      > --- In exexgayministry@yahoogroups.com <exexgayministry%40yahoogroups.com>,
      > "rckmtnguy24" <ad4071@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > I apologize, but I guess I'll go ahead and tell you my thoughts on this.
      > The fact that this is posted publicly will stop me from participating here.
      > This is a shame, because I think there's some good discussion going on here.
      > >
      > > I've started three closed/private Yahoo groups. Members have to be
      > pre-approved and messages are viewable only by other members. The things
      > posted there cannot be accessed by anyone outside the membership and I
      > suppose by Yahoo employees.
      > >
      > > I don't see the need for the Ex Gay people to be "spying" here, nor for
      > the Ex Ex Gay people to spy on their forums. There are enough members on
      > both sides who can share what's going on.
      > >
      > > Many of us have questions about serious and private matters. Regretfully,
      > I no longer feel comfortable posting here where everyone can read it. I do
      > not believe it's a false sense of security. There's always a possibility of
      > someone that's a member "snitching" on someone's post, but I think thats a
      > far less concern than laying it all out naked.
      > >
      > > Just my two-cents worth and probably the last.
      > >
      > > Sorry!
      > >

      Pete Zayonce
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      "I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I
      realized I was somebody."
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