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3090RE: [ExExGayMinistry] Greetings!

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  • Anthony Venn-Brown
    Aug 12, 2004
      Welcome Kurt and thanks for introducing yourself.

      What interesting journeys we have……..no wondered David Owen Ritz once said

      “Homosexuality is actually a privileged spiritual path and natural mode of
      human expression that our Souls have chosen in order to help us discover the
      true power and magnificence of our Authentic Selves“.

      ………and my favourite quote of all

      “People who exist at the margins of society are very much like Alice in
      Wonderland. They are not required to make the tough decision to risk their
      lives by embarking on an adventure of self-discovery. They have already
      been thrust beyond the city’s walls that keep ordinary people at a safe
      distance from the unknown. For at least some outsiders, “alienation” has
      destroyed traditional presumptions of identity and opened up the mythic hero
      ’s path to the possibility of discovery. What outsiders discover in their
      adventures on the other side of the looking glass is the courage to
      repudiate self-contempt and recognise their “alienation” as a precious gift
      of freedom from arbitrary norms that they did not make and did not sanction.
      At the moment a person questions the validity of the rules, the victim is no
      longer a victim.”

      Quote from “Coming Out Spiritually – The Next Step” by Christian de la

      Moderator and author of:
      'A Life of Unlearning -Coming Out of the Church - One Man's Struggle'
      To download Chapter 1 'The Confession' FREE click here
      <http://www.anthonyvennbrown.com/book.html> .
      My sexual orientation is not a sickness to be healed or a sin to be
      forgiven. My sexual orientation is a gift from my Creator to be accepted,
      celebrated, and lived with integrity.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Kurt [mailto:koenbear@...]
      Sent: Friday, 13 August 2004 00:54
      To: exexgayministry@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [ExExGayMinistry] Greetings!

      Hello all,

      I just joined the group and thought I would put out a quick

      My name is Kurt and I live with my partner in Portland, OR. I am
      now 33 but was a part of the ex-gay movement for about 10 years. I
      came out at 18, but quickly went back in the closet at 19 when I had
      a conversion experience and started going to a conservative
      Christian church. My involvement in a local ex-gay ministry in the
      San Jose, CA area started at about the same time. I spent 2 years
      in that program and even got a diploma showing that I had graduated.

      A few years later, in my mid-20's, I went back to school in
      Minnesota to study for the ministry in the Wisconsin Evangelical
      Lutheran Synod. In school, I was told not to tell people even that
      I "had been" gay, so I was completely closeted, both as gay and ex-
      gay. Wanting someone to talk to I created a Yahoo group called 611
      (from 1 Corinthians 6:11). That list was grew to about 100 people
      and was around for a few years.

      In my ministry life, I had been assigned as a minister in San
      Antonio, TX. While I was there, I was told that I was being
      considered for a ministry position at a small congregation in
      Brazil. The catch: they don't normally send single guys on foreign
      missions. So, thinking it was what God wanted for my life, I got
      married, was assigned to Brazil and moved there in November.

      Brazil is where the shit hit the fan. Our marriage did not go
      well. On a trip back to the U.S. issues about my sexuality came
      out. Long story short: I was told that I wasn't fit for ministry
      because I might molest a teenager (never mind that I had no history
      of that or anything that might indicate I would).

      On September 10th of 2001 I left my wife, my career, and my church.
      I stayed overnight in a motel in San Antonio, TX intending to fly to
      Portland, OR the next day. That never happened because of the
      terrorist attacks in New York and at the Pentagon. Instead I drove
      the 2,4000 miles and attmepted to start my life over.

      The good news is that there is a happy ending: I met my partner 2
      weeks after I got here. That was 3 years ago. We just bought a
      home together. I am back in school pursuing a Masters of Divinity,
      and I am a candidate for ordination in the United Church of Christ.

      Sorry for the long post. I just wanted to make a quick introduction
      and let y'all know that I'm here.

      You can read about stuff I write about here:

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