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  • Michael B. Smith
    Additionally, it s safe to assume that YES the dumpster has content. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog:
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      Additionally, it’s safe to assume that YES the dumpster has content.

       

      Regards,

       

      Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

      My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

      Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

       

      From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Ganger
      Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:19 PM
      To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

       

      No to both, at least at this time, and frankly I'd be surprised if there ever was a way to do the latter.

       

      --

      Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP        Email: deving@...

      3Sharp                             Phone: 425.882.1032

      14700 NE 95th Suite 210             Cell: 425.239.2575

      Redmond, WA  98052                   Fax: 425.558.5710

      (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/

       

      From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
      Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:21 AM
      To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

       

      To make a long story short, I had some trouble with my CCR cluster and failed over to my SCR target. However, it was only after this occurred that I found out that the Transport Dumpster only works in conjunction with a CCR cluster (and LCR post SP1). I was curious to see if there was mail sitting in the dumpster and if so, some way to pull it out.

       

      --Mike Driscoll

       

      From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
      Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:07 PM
      To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

       

      I’m kind of interested in knowing why you would want to?

       

      Regards,

       

      Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

      My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

      Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

       

      From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Ganger
      Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:10 PM
      To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

       

      None that I'm aware of, but that's a great question! Let me forward it on to a couple people I know.

       

      --

      Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP        Email: deving@...

      3Sharp                             Phone: 425.882.1032

      14700 NE 95th Suite 210             Cell: 425.239.2575

      Redmond, WA  98052                   Fax: 425.558.5710

      (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/

       

      From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
      Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:05 AM
      To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [exchange2007] Transport Dumpster

       

      Is there anyway to view the contents of the transport dumpster? I’ve done some looking and all I can find is how to view the configured size, i.e. 30MB.

       

      --Mike Driscoll

       

    • Driscoll, Michael
      I m not surprised. Thanks for looking into it. --Mike Driscoll From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin
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        I’m not surprised. Thanks for looking into it.

         

        --Mike Driscoll

         

        From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Ganger
        Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:19 PM
        To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

         

        No to both, at least at this time, and frankly I'd be surprised if there ever was a way to do the latter.

         

        --

        Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP        Email: deving@...

        3Sharp                             Phone: 425.882.1032

        14700 NE 95th Suite 210             Cell: 425.239.2575

        Redmond, WA  98052                   Fax: 425.558.5710

        (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/

         

        From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
        Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:21 AM
        To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

         

        To make a long story short, I had some trouble with my CCR cluster and failed over to my SCR target. However, it was only after this occurred that I found out that the Transport Dumpster only works in conjunction with a CCR cluster (and LCR post SP1). I was curious to see if there was mail sitting in the dumpster and if so, some way to pull it out.

         

        --Mike Driscoll

         

        From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
        Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:07 PM
        To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

         

        I’m kind of interested in knowing why you would want to?

         

        Regards,

         

        Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

        My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

        Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

         

        From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Ganger
        Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:10 PM
        To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

         

        None that I'm aware of, but that's a great question! Let me forward it on to a couple people I know.

         

        --

        Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP        Email: deving@...

        3Sharp                             Phone: 425.882.1032

        14700 NE 95th Suite 210             Cell: 425.239.2575

        Redmond, WA  98052                   Fax: 425.558.5710

        (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/

         

        From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
        Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:05 AM
        To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [exchange2007] Transport Dumpster

         

        Is there anyway to view the contents of the transport dumpster? I’ve done some looking and all I can find is how to view the configured size, i.e. 30MB.

         

        --Mike Driscoll

         

         

      • Jim McBee
        During a session this past week at Exchange Connections, I had someone ask me essentially the same question. Is it possible to see the contents to see the
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          During a session this past week at Exchange Connections, I had someone ask me essentially the same question.  Is it possible to see the contents to see the contents of anything in the E2K7 queues (dumpster or queues) without using the Queue Viewer or EMS.

           

           

           

          From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
          Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:32 AM
          To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

           

          Additionally, it’s safe to assume that YES the dumpster has content.

           

          Regards,

           

          Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

          My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

          Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

           

          From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Ganger
          Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:19 PM
          To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

           

          No to both, at least at this time, and frankly I'd be surprised if there ever was a way to do the latter.

           

          --

          Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP        Email: deving@...

          3Sharp                             Phone: 425.882.1032

          14700 NE 95th Suite 210             Cell: 425.239.2575

          Redmond, WA  98052                   Fax: 425.558.5710

          (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/

           

          From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
          Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:21 AM
          To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

           

          To make a long story short, I had some trouble with my CCR cluster and failed over to my SCR target. However, it was only after this occurred that I found out that the Transport Dumpster only works in conjunction with a CCR cluster (and LCR post SP1). I was curious to see if there was mail sitting in the dumpster and if so, some way to pull it out.

           

          --Mike Driscoll

           

          From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
          Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:07 PM
          To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

           

          I’m kind of interested in knowing why you would want to?

           

          Regards,

           

          Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

          My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

          Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

           

          From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Ganger
          Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:10 PM
          To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

           

          None that I'm aware of, but that's a great question! Let me forward it on to a couple people I know.

           

          --

          Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP        Email: deving@...

          3Sharp                             Phone: 425.882.1032

          14700 NE 95th Suite 210             Cell: 425.239.2575

          Redmond, WA  98052                   Fax: 425.558.5710

          (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/

           

          From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
          Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:05 AM
          To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [exchange2007] Transport Dumpster

           

          Is there anyway to view the contents of the transport dumpster? I’ve done some looking and all I can find is how to view the configured size, i.e. 30MB.

           

          --Mike Driscoll

           

        • Devin Ganger
          Get-Queue and Get-Message. They don t give you the full contents of the messages, though; just enough to identify a unique message for troubleshooting. There s
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            Get-Queue and Get-Message. They don't give you the full contents of the
            messages, though; just enough to identify a unique message for
            troubleshooting.

            There's no indication that I'm aware of, though, as to whether a given
            message is part of the dumpster. How it was explained to me is that there's
            no actual "dumpster" object or construct in the database; it's simply just a
            marking that relevant pages "do not overwrite" combined with an extra bit of
            logic to expire the pages out of the dumpster as needed.


            On 11/15/08 12:37 PM, "Jim McBee" <jmcbee@...> wrote:

            > During a session this past week at Exchange Connections, I had someone ask me
            > essentially the same question. Is it possible to see the contents to see the
            > contents of anything in the E2K7 queues (dumpster or queues) without using the
            > Queue Viewer or EMS.
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
            > Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
            > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:32 AM
            > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
            >
            >
            > Additionally, it¹s safe to assume that YES the dumpster has content.
            >
            >
            > Regards,
            >
            > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
            > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
            > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
            >
            >
            > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
            > Behalf Of Devin Ganger
            > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:19 PM
            > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
            >
            >
            > No to both, at least at this time, and frankly I'd be surprised if there ever
            > was a way to do the latter.
            >
            >
            > --
            > Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP Email: deving@...
            > 3Sharp Phone: 425.882.1032
            > 14700 NE 95th Suite 210 Cell: 425.239.2575
            > Redmond, WA 98052 Fax: 425.558.5710
            > (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/
            >
            >
            > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
            > Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
            > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:21 AM
            > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
            >
            > To make a long story short, I had some trouble with my CCR cluster and failed
            > over to my SCR target. However, it was only after this occurred that I found
            > out that the Transport Dumpster only works in conjunction with a CCR cluster
            > (and LCR post SP1). I was curious to see if there was mail sitting in the
            > dumpster and if so, some way to pull it out.
            >
            >
            > --Mike Driscoll
            >
            >
            > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
            > Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
            > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:07 PM
            > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
            >
            >
            > I¹m kind of interested in knowing why you would want to?
            >
            >
            > Regards,
            >
            > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
            > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
            > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
            >
            >
            > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
            > Behalf Of Devin Ganger
            > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:10 PM
            > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
            >
            >
            > None that I'm aware of, but that's a great question! Let me forward it on to a
            > couple people I know.
            >
            >
            > --
            > Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP Email: deving@...
            > 3Sharp Phone: 425.882.1032
            > 14700 NE 95th Suite 210 Cell: 425.239.2575
            > Redmond, WA 98052 Fax: 425.558.5710
            > (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/
            >
            >
            > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
            > Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
            > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:05 AM
            > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: [exchange2007] Transport Dumpster
            >
            > Is there anyway to view the contents of the transport dumpster? I¹ve done some
            > looking and all I can find is how to view the configured size, i.e. 30MB.
            >
            > --Mike Driscoll
            >
            >
            >

            --
            Devin L. Ganger, Exchange MVP Email: deving@...
            3Sharp LLC Phone: 425.882.1032
            14700 NE 95th Suite 210 Cell: 425.239.2575
            Redmond, WA 98052 Fax: 425.558.5710
            (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/
          • Jim McBee
            I can see situations where it might be desirable to remove messages from the queue (and the dumpster) based on subject or message content. Such as a virus
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              I can see situations where it might be desirable to remove messages from the queue (and the dumpster) based on subject or message content.  Such as a virus outbreak or an information spill.   I suspect that Microsoft will see a few requests for this type of functionality as more customers migrate to E2K7.

               

               

               

              From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Ganger
              Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:12 AM
              To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

               

              Get-Queue and Get-Message. They don't give you the full contents of the
              messages, though; just enough to identify a unique message for
              troubleshooting.

              There's no indication that I'm aware of, though, as to whether a given
              message is part of the dumpster. How it was explained to me is that there's
              no actual "dumpster" object or construct in the database; it's simply just a
              marking that relevant pages "do not overwrite" combined with an extra bit of
              logic to expire the pages out of the dumpster as needed.

              On 11/15/08 12:37 PM, "Jim McBee" <jmcbee@...> wrote:

              > During a session this past week at Exchange Connections, I had someone ask
              me
              > essentially the same question. Is it possible to see the contents to see
              the
              > contents of anything in the E2K7 queues (dumpster or queues) without using
              the
              > Queue Viewer or EMS.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
              [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
              > Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
              > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:32 AM
              > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
              >
              >
              > Additionally, it¹s safe to assume that YES the dumpster has content.
              >
              >
              > Regards,
              >
              > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
              > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
              > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
              >
              >
              > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
              [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
              > Behalf Of Devin Ganger
              > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:19 PM
              > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
              >
              >
              > No to both, at least at this time, and frankly I'd be surprised if there
              ever
              > was a way to do the latter.
              >
              >
              > --
              > Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP Email: deving@...
              > 3Sharp Phone: 425.882.1032
              > 14700 NE 95th Suite 210 Cell: 425.239.2575
              > Redmond, WA 98052 Fax: 425.558.5710
              > (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/
              >
              >
              > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
              [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
              > Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
              > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:21 AM
              > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
              >
              > To make a long story short, I had some trouble with my CCR cluster and
              failed
              > over to my SCR target. However, it was only after this occurred that I
              found
              > out that the Transport Dumpster only works in conjunction with a CCR
              cluster
              > (and LCR post SP1). I was curious to see if there was mail sitting in the
              > dumpster and if so, some way to pull it out.
              >
              >
              > --Mike Driscoll
              >
              >
              > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
              [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
              > Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
              > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:07 PM
              > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
              >
              >
              > I¹m kind of interested in knowing why you would want to?
              >
              >
              > Regards,
              >
              > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
              > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
              > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
              >
              >
              > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
              [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
              > Behalf Of Devin Ganger
              > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:10 PM
              > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
              >
              >
              > None that I'm aware of, but that's a great question! Let me forward it on
              to a
              > couple people I know.
              >
              >
              > --
              > Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP Email: deving@...
              > 3Sharp Phone: 425.882.1032
              > 14700 NE 95th Suite 210 Cell: 425.239.2575
              > Redmond, WA 98052 Fax: 425.558.5710
              > (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/
              >
              >
              > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
              [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
              > Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
              > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:05 AM
              > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: [exchange2007] Transport Dumpster
              >
              > Is there anyway to view the contents of the transport dumpster? I¹ve done
              some
              > looking and all I can find is how to view the configured size, i.e. 30MB.
              >
              > --Mike Driscoll
              >
              >
              >

              --
              Devin L. Ganger, Exchange MVP Email: deving@...
              3Sharp LLC Phone: 425.882.1032
              14700 NE 95th Suite 210 Cell: 425.239.2575
              Redmond, WA 98052 Fax: 425.558.5710
              (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/

            • Devin Ganger
              You can remove messages from the queue, just as you could in previous versions. I just don t know if that removes it from the dumpster. Hmm. That would be an
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                You can remove messages from the queue, just as you could in previous versions. I just don't know if that removes it from the dumpster.

                 

                Hmm. That would be an interesting experiment to try.

                 

                --

                Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP        Email: deving@...

                3Sharp                             Phone: 425.882.1032

                14700 NE 95th Suite 210             Cell: 425.239.2575

                Redmond, WA  98052                   Fax: 425.558.5710

                (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/

                 

                From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim McBee
                Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:46 AM
                To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

                 

                I can see situations where it might be desirable to remove messages from the queue (and the dumpster) based on subject or message content.  Such as a virus outbreak or an information spill.   I suspect that Microsoft will see a few requests for this type of functionality as more customers migrate to E2K7.

                 

                 

                 

                From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Ganger
                Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:12 AM
                To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

                 

                Get-Queue and Get-Message. They don't give you the full contents of the
                messages, though; just enough to identify a unique message for
                troubleshooting.

                There's no indication that I'm aware of, though, as to whether a given
                message is part of the dumpster. How it was explained to me is that there's
                no actual "dumpster" object or construct in the database; it's simply just a
                marking that relevant pages "do not overwrite" combined with an extra bit of
                logic to expire the pages out of the dumpster as needed.

                On 11/15/08 12:37 PM, "Jim McBee" <jmcbee@...> wrote:

                > During a session this past week at Exchange Connections, I had someone ask
                me
                > essentially the same question. Is it possible to see the contents to see
                the
                > contents of anything in the E2K7 queues (dumpster or queues) without using
                the
                > Queue Viewer or EMS.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
                > Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
                > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:32 AM
                > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
                >
                >
                > Additionally, it¹s safe to assume that YES the dumpster has content.
                >
                >
                > Regards,
                >
                > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
                > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
                > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
                >
                >
                > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
                > Behalf Of Devin Ganger
                > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:19 PM
                > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
                >
                >
                > No to both, at least at this time, and frankly I'd be surprised if there
                ever
                > was a way to do the latter.
                >
                >
                > --
                > Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP Email: deving@...
                > 3Sharp Phone: 425.882.1032
                > 14700 NE 95th Suite 210 Cell: 425.239.2575
                > Redmond, WA 98052 Fax: 425.558.5710
                > (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/
                >
                >
                > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
                > Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
                > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:21 AM
                > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
                >
                > To make a long story short, I had some trouble with my CCR cluster and
                failed
                > over to my SCR target. However, it was only after this occurred that I
                found
                > out that the Transport Dumpster only works in conjunction with a CCR
                cluster
                > (and LCR post SP1). I was curious to see if there was mail sitting in the
                > dumpster and if so, some way to pull it out.
                >
                >
                > --Mike Driscoll
                >
                >
                > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
                > Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
                > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:07 PM
                > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
                >
                >
                > I¹m kind of interested in knowing why you would want to?
                >
                >
                > Regards,
                >
                > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
                > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
                > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
                >
                >
                > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
                > Behalf Of Devin Ganger
                > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:10 PM
                > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
                >
                >
                > None that I'm aware of, but that's a great question! Let me forward it on
                to a
                > couple people I know.
                >
                >
                > --
                > Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP Email: deving@...
                > 3Sharp Phone: 425.882.1032
                > 14700 NE 95th Suite 210 Cell: 425.239.2575
                > Redmond, WA 98052 Fax: 425.558.5710
                > (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/
                >
                >
                > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
                > Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
                > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:05 AM
                > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: [exchange2007] Transport Dumpster
                >
                > Is there anyway to view the contents of the transport dumpster? I¹ve done
                some
                > looking and all I can find is how to view the configured size, i.e. 30MB.
                >
                > --Mike Driscoll
                >
                >
                >

                --
                Devin L. Ganger, Exchange MVP Email: deving@...
                3Sharp LLC Phone: 425.882.1032
                14700 NE 95th Suite 210 Cell: 425.239.2575
                Redmond, WA 98052 Fax: 425.558.5710
                (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/

                 

              • Jim McBee
                Speaking from an information assurance perspective, I think my friends in the IA department would also want the message purged from the dumpster to prevent
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                  Speaking from an “information assurance” perspective, I think my friends in the IA department would also want the message purged from the dumpster to prevent accidental “replay”.   I have had to wipe entire Exchange servers because of information spillage and restore from backup.

                   

                   

                  From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Ganger
                  Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:39 AM
                  To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

                   

                  You can remove messages from the queue, just as you could in previous versions. I just don't know if that removes it from the dumpster.

                   

                  Hmm. That would be an interesting experiment to try.

                   

                  --

                  Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP        Email: deving@...

                  3Sharp                             Phone: 425.882.1032

                  14700 NE 95th Suite 210             Cell: 425.239.2575

                  Redmond, WA  98052                   Fax: 425.558.5710

                  (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/

                   

                  From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim McBee
                  Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 11:46 AM
                  To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

                   

                  I can see situations where it might be desirable to remove messages from the queue (and the dumpster) based on subject or message content.  Such as a virus outbreak or an information spill.   I suspect that Microsoft will see a few requests for this type of functionality as more customers migrate to E2K7.

                   

                   

                   

                  From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Ganger
                  Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:12 AM
                  To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: Re: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster

                   

                  Get-Queue and Get-Message. They don't give you the full contents of the
                  messages, though; just enough to identify a unique message for
                  troubleshooting.

                  There's no indication that I'm aware of, though, as to whether a given
                  message is part of the dumpster. How it was explained to me is that there's
                  no actual "dumpster" object or construct in the database; it's simply just a
                  marking that relevant pages "do not overwrite" combined with an extra bit of
                  logic to expire the pages out of the dumpster as needed.

                  On 11/15/08 12:37 PM, "Jim McBee" <jmcbee@...> wrote:

                  > During a session this past week at Exchange Connections, I had someone ask
                  me
                  > essentially the same question. Is it possible to see the contents to see
                  the
                  > contents of anything in the E2K7 queues (dumpster or queues) without using
                  the
                  > Queue Viewer or EMS.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
                  > Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
                  > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:32 AM
                  > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
                  >
                  >
                  > Additionally, it¹s safe to assume that YES the dumpster has content.
                  >
                  >
                  > Regards,
                  >
                  > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
                  > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
                  > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
                  >
                  >
                  > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
                  > Behalf Of Devin Ganger
                  > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:19 PM
                  > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
                  >
                  >
                  > No to both, at least at this time, and frankly I'd be surprised if there
                  ever
                  > was a way to do the latter.
                  >
                  >
                  > --
                  > Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP Email: deving@...
                  > 3Sharp Phone: 425.882.1032
                  > 14700 NE 95th Suite 210 Cell: 425.239.2575
                  > Redmond, WA 98052 Fax: 425.558.5710
                  > (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/
                  >
                  >
                  > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
                  > Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
                  > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:21 AM
                  > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
                  >
                  > To make a long story short, I had some trouble with my CCR cluster and
                  failed
                  > over to my SCR target. However, it was only after this occurred that I
                  found
                  > out that the Transport Dumpster only works in conjunction with a CCR
                  cluster
                  > (and LCR post SP1). I was curious to see if there was mail sitting in the
                  > dumpster and if so, some way to pull it out.
                  >
                  >
                  > --Mike Driscoll
                  >
                  >
                  > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
                  > Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
                  > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:07 PM
                  > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: RE: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
                  >
                  >
                  > I¹m kind of interested in knowing why you would want to?
                  >
                  >
                  > Regards,
                  >
                  > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
                  > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
                  > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
                  >
                  >
                  > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
                  > Behalf Of Devin Ganger
                  > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:10 PM
                  > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: [exchange2007] RE: Transport Dumpster
                  >
                  >
                  > None that I'm aware of, but that's a great question! Let me forward it on
                  to a
                  > couple people I know.
                  >
                  >
                  > --
                  > Devin L. Ganger, MCITP, MVP Email: deving@...
                  > 3Sharp Phone: 425.882.1032
                  > 14700 NE 95th Suite 210 Cell: 425.239.2575
                  > Redmond, WA 98052 Fax: 425.558.5710
                  > (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/
                  >
                  >
                  > From: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  [mailto:exchange2007@yahoogroups.com] On
                  > Behalf Of Driscoll, Michael
                  > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:05 AM
                  > To: exchange2007@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: [exchange2007] Transport Dumpster
                  >
                  > Is there anyway to view the contents of the transport dumpster? I¹ve done
                  some
                  > looking and all I can find is how to view the configured size, i.e. 30MB.
                  >
                  > --Mike Driscoll
                  >
                  >
                  >

                  --
                  Devin L. Ganger, Exchange MVP Email: deving@...
                  3Sharp LLC Phone: 425.882.1032
                  14700 NE 95th Suite 210 Cell: 425.239.2575
                  Redmond, WA 98052 Fax: 425.558.5710
                  (e)Mail Insecurity: http://blogs.3sharp.com/blog/deving/

                   

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