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Re: New Webpages on Vance's Program & Activities, in Cairo

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  • Buthaina Al Othman
    Hi Vance, Thanks so much for the instructions and tips.I managed to edit and resize the pics on some of the pages, using Firework. Actually,I didn t use any
    Message 1 of 7 , Feb 7 5:04 PM
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      Hi Vance,
      Thanks so much for the instructions and tips.I managed to edit and
      resize the pics on some of the pages, using Firework. Actually,I
      didn't use any photo editor this time, due to time pressure, as I
      started creating those page late and wanted to finish and post them
      to you all as soon as possible.For this reason,I had to used the
      image resizing feature available at my DreaWeaver.

      Usually, I use Firework or MS Photo Editor; they both works fine for
      me. But it's good that I learned not to rely on that feature
      included in DW for image resizing, next time.

      Thanks for the lesson and sorry about the squashed pictures. I will
      definitely fix the rest as soon as I can.

      Please have a look at the following pages with the the edited
      pictures:

      http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_workshop_jan2404.htm

      http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_auc_jan2104.htm

      http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_dancing_cairo_jan2304.htm

      Best regards,
      Buth
      PS Btw, did you have a good time at Dahab? I had a great time in
      Lebanon, but Cairo was different and more fun, :)
      And regarding the pictures in general, they're all saved on a CD. I
      can Fedex it to you or give it to you when we meet again in Long
      Beach. Let me which way do you prefer.


      --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Vance Stevens"
      <vstevens@e...> wrote:
      > Buth,
      >
      > So nice to hear from you. Your web pages are fantastic. It's
      great
      > that Webheads are keeping up the traditions, Buth (like Teresa and
      > Aiden, recording Webheads in various actions) and Dafne and
      company
      > with the Becoming a Webhead session. Having set the cats in
      motion,
      > this old cat herder is able to sit back and enjoy the fruits of so
      > many efforts, and it is great to see the flowers bloom from the
      seeds
      > sown over the past few years.
      >
      > It's time for a lesson though on `aspect'. Aspect is the
      > relationship between width and height in pictures. Your pictures
      on
      > your web pages look squashed, but this is easily fixable.
      >
      > Let's take this url for example: http://alothman-
      > b.tripod.com/vance_workshop_jan2404.htm
      >
      > One of the pictures there is in the following table:
      > <tr>
      > <td><img src="vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg" width="300"
      > height="270"></td>
      > </tr>
      >
      > Now if you right click on the pic and select properties, you can
      see
      > that the url for this pic is: http://alothman-
      > b.tripod.com/vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg
      >
      > If you put that url in a browser and then right click on the
      picture
      > (which displays in original size and aspect in the browser
      > application) then you can right click on it, select properties,
      and
      > see that its size is 640 x 480.
      >
      > There are two problems here.
      >
      > One, you are storing the BIG original at your website (lots of
      bytes)
      > and displaying it small. It would save space to reduce the
      pictures
      > to the size you want to display and store the reduced pictures at
      > your website. It would also reduce download time when viewers of
      > your pages could retrieve the smaller files off your server.
      >
      > The second problem is that by going from 640x480 to 300x270 you
      are
      > changing aspect. 640 to 380 is a factor of 2.133 and 480 to 270
      is a
      > factor of 1.778. To preserve aspect, the factor should be the
      same
      > in both dimensions. For example, you could reduce both dimensions
      by
      > a factor of 2 and make all your pics 320x240. In that case you
      > should change your syntax in the above table to
      >
      > <tr>
      > <td><img src="vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg" width="320"
      > height="240"></td>
      > </tr>
      >
      > Of course you'd have to make similar changes to every picture
      > displayed from each of your web pages. This would resolve the
      second
      > problem mentioned above.
      >
      > To address the first problem, you'd have to get a photo editor
      that
      > would reduce the size of your pictures and then replace the BIG
      files
      > you have up at your site now with the small ones. These
      techniques
      > were covered in our WIA2002 sessions, here:
      > http://www.vancestevens.com/papers/evonline2002/syllabus.htm#wk6
      >
      > In this case you can give the above dimensions only if they are
      > correct for the actual picture size OR simply give the syntax
      without
      > setting width and height, like this:
      >
      > <tr>
      > <td><img src="vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg"></td>
      > </tr>
      >
      > Knowing Buth, I'm sure she appreciates this explanation, and
      knowing
      > me, you know that I very much appreciate all the work that Buth
      and
      > all the other Webheads in Action are doing. It is this work that
      I
      > am honored present at the many venues at which I am invited to do
      so.
      >
      > I'm going to share these urls with all the people I can think of
      whom
      > we met in Cairo.
      >
      > All the best,
      >
      > Vance
      >
      > PS - My Hot Metal gives me errors when I try to save my files
      without
      > specifying an ALT parameter for my pictures. This happens only if
      I
      > specify parameters WIDTH and HEIGHT. Hot Metal saves the files
      with
      > the error and they display in browsers fine, as far as I can tell,
      > but if annoyed by this problem, use this syntax:
      >
      > ><img src="vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg" width="320"
      height="240"
      > alt="">
      >
      > V
    • Buthaina Al Othman
      Dear Fernanda, Thank you for suggesting PSP; I have just found it via google.com, however, it s not a freeware! I usually use Firework, which is included in my
      Message 2 of 7 , Feb 7 5:21 PM
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        Dear Fernanda,
        Thank you for suggesting PSP; I have just found it via google.com,
        however, it's not a freeware! I usually use Firework, which is
        included in my DreamWeaver 4 package and soemtimes I use Microsoft
        photo editor. I would be appreciative if you could tell me what do
        you think of them.
        Appreciate your cooperation, :)
        Buth

        --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Fernanda Rodrigues
        <fernanda.rodrigues@n...> wrote:
        >
        > On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:13:41 -0000
        > "Vance Stevens" <vstevens@e...> wrote:
        >
        >
        > > It's time for a lesson though on `aspect'. Aspect is the
        > > relationship between width and height in pictures. Your
        pictures on
        > > your web pages look squashed, but this is easily fixable.
        >
        > It's quite easy to resize images with PaintShoPro... you can
        choose to
        > resize them as a percentage of the original, or decide about
        height and
        > width (for example, you may need to have a series of images with
        the
        > same height).. paint shop pro will automatically resize the image
        > preserving the original aspect, without distorting it.
        >
        > If you need help resizing with PSP, please say... I use it quite
        often
        >
        >
        > Fernanda
      • CJones
        Hi, Buth, How many hours did you spend on this? It s work well done. Seeing the crowd that Vance addressed at the plenary really helps others to see what an
        Message 3 of 7 , Feb 8 4:47 PM
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          Hi, Buth,

          How many hours did you spend on this? It's work well done. Seeing the
          crowd that Vance addressed at the plenary really helps others to see
          what an impact he must have made. (A picture is indeed worth 1000
          words!)

          Chris Jones

          P.S. I'm looking forward to meeting you at Long Beach in March.

          --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Buthaina Al Othman"
          <buthaina_3@y...> wrote:
          > Hellow all,
          > At last, I am back in Kuwait, following a 2-week wonderful holiday
          > between Cairo and Beirut, where I extended my stay and arrived
          home,
          > early yesterday, instead of Feb 2nd.
          >
          > I spent the day composing and completing webpages on Vance's
          > program, in Cairo, I promised to finish, publish, and post as soon
          > as I'm back home.
          >
          > You are all welcome to view the pages on the program, including the
          > one, showing the "Frivolous Unanticipated Nonsense", in Cairo, as
          > Vance described it in an earlier message and in one of his
          > presentations when he said:
          > "It is Important to Have Fun"; so it was dancing while crusing the
          > Nile! Check it out here
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_dancing_cairo_jan2304.htm
          >
          > The following URLs are of some new and updated pages on Vance's
          > Program, in Cairo,Jan 19 - 24, 2004:
          >
          > 1. Vance's Orientation Session at the IELP-II, (Jan 23, 2004)
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_ielp2_cairojan2304.htm
          >
          > 2. Some Screen Shots of Vance's Demo session with Webheads,(Jan 23,
          > 2004)
          >
          http://www.geocities.com/esl_efl_ku/vance_demosession_webheads_jan230
          > 4.htm
          >
          > 3. Mini-Workshop at CDIT- lab, (Jan 24, 2004)
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_workshop_jan2404.htm
          >
          > 4. EgyptWebheads portal page:(underconstruction)
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/egyptwebheads_portal_jan2404.htm
          >
          > 5. Vance's Keynote Speech at the 9th EFL Skills Conference by the
          > CACE, AUC, (Jan 21, 2004), updated:
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_auc_jan2104.htm
          >
          > 6. More Pictures of day one, updated:
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_pictures_aucjan2104.htm
          >
          > 7. Some more pictures of day one (audience), updated:
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_pictures2_aucjan2104.htm
          >
          > I hope you like them, :-)
          > Cheers!
          > Buth
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