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  • Buthaina Al Othman
    Hellow all, At last, I am back in Kuwait, following a 2-week wonderful holiday between Cairo and Beirut, where I extended my stay and arrived home, early
    Message 1 of 7 , Feb 6, 2004
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      Hellow all,
      At last, I am back in Kuwait, following a 2-week wonderful holiday
      between Cairo and Beirut, where I extended my stay and arrived home,
      early yesterday, instead of Feb 2nd.

      I spent the day composing and completing webpages on Vance's
      program, in Cairo, I promised to finish, publish, and post as soon
      as I'm back home.

      You are all welcome to view the pages on the program, including the
      one, showing the "Frivolous Unanticipated Nonsense", in Cairo, as
      Vance described it in an earlier message and in one of his
      presentations when he said:
      "It is Important to Have Fun"; so it was dancing while crusing the
      Nile! Check it out here
      http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_dancing_cairo_jan2304.htm

      The following URLs are of some new and updated pages on Vance's
      Program, in Cairo,Jan 19 - 24, 2004:

      1. Vance's Orientation Session at the IELP-II, (Jan 23, 2004)
      http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_ielp2_cairojan2304.htm

      2. Some Screen Shots of Vance's Demo session with Webheads,(Jan 23,
      2004)
      http://www.geocities.com/esl_efl_ku/vance_demosession_webheads_jan230
      4.htm

      3. Mini-Workshop at CDIT- lab, (Jan 24, 2004)
      http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_workshop_jan2404.htm

      4. EgyptWebheads portal page:(underconstruction)
      http://alothman-b.tripod.com/egyptwebheads_portal_jan2404.htm

      5. Vance's Keynote Speech at the 9th EFL Skills Conference by the
      CACE, AUC, (Jan 21, 2004), updated:
      http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_auc_jan2104.htm

      6. More Pictures of day one, updated:
      http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_pictures_aucjan2104.htm

      7. Some more pictures of day one (audience), updated:
      http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_pictures2_aucjan2104.htm

      I hope you like them, :-)
      Cheers!
      Buth
    • willmcculloch
      Hi, I m new here and very interested in how (i) changes in language learning opportunities (particularly the internet) affect appropriate teaching
      Message 2 of 7 , Feb 7, 2004
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        Hi, I'm new here and very interested in how (i) changes in language
        learning opportunities (particularly the internet) affect
        appropriate teaching methodology ... and how (ii) the writing and
        organisational skills of L2 learners can be used most effectively
        within a motivating, flexible and individual “organised vocabulary
        notebook”.

        The quality of today's resources absolutely knocks the spots off
        what was available to learners only 50 years ago - and yet
        methodology seems to have made relatively few adjustments. My
        personal view is that the improvements in learning opportunities
        make it increasingly appropriate to place more early focus on
        vocabulary development, understanding and enjoyable interaction. I’m
        also convinced that the availability of better resources (and
        teachers) makes it far more sensible to explain grammar in the
        earlier stages predominantly through correct and graded example
        sentences. Appreciation of grammar structure can then (as with L1
        learners ) be tested and fine-tuned at a time when good
        understanding has already been achieved through a much more quickly
        expanding vocabulary base. This approach, I believe, not only has a
        lot of motivational plusses - it also avoids a lot of exposure to
        early errors ...(from over- testing).. which may then later become
        fossilized.

        The "Word Surfing" vocabulary development strategy is therefore an
        attempt to make the most of modern opportunities with the help of
        old-fashioned pen and paper. It’s about trying to encourage better
        quality output through more exposure to motivating and more
        interactive input. Full details are available from the website and
        discussion forums below… and, of course, I’m hoping that being on
        sites like this will encourage serious consideration/criticism of
        the concept from the academic community…( but often people have a
        lot of time pressure and I appreciate this )….Anyway, any feedback
        on WS would be more than welcome….as would any suggested links to
        improve the site….particularly at…

        http://www.wordsurfing.co.uk/7846.html

        …as the opportunity is now being made more available to learners of
        other languages. A few people from this list have already
        contributed â€" and I’m very grateful to them. Thanks.

        I’ll be following this site with interest, especially after having
        just read parts of Vance’s Cairo speech in which…among other things…
        he said something that strikes a big chord with me and WS . “There
        is no such thing as a language teacher. There are only language
        learners. That’s you”…It’s true…so true. “Teachers” can only=

        guide “students” so far up the language learning curve, and even
        then they can only point a way. Everything, at the end of the day,
        is down to the individual and their desire to co-operate with the
        possibilities in the outside world. And whether it’s amazing new
        internet resources….or a simple idea for helping people to use such
        resources to increase vocabulary(language)…or whatever….the only
        really useful, helpful thing that the “teacher” can do is raise
        awareness of those opportunities for the “students”. Yes, you can
        motivate them to do something…but, it’s only when they find what
        motivates themselves that things will really begin to happen.

        Learner independence and motivation are both central to the WS
        Concept, which is designed to appeal to those with a positive desire
        to improve their language skills. The modern world certainly offers
        plenty of opportunity to speakers of more than one language and the
        incentive to develop multi-lingual skills has probably never been
        greater. Until recently most people didn’t have the chance to travel
        much and the vast majority of conversations could only be with
        people who spoke “their language”. Opportunities to learn a new
        language â€" and work abroad - were very limited at that time when
        compared to today. There was a much smaller pool of available
        language teachers and a far smaller selection of good resources. The
        incentive to learn a foreign language at that time was
        understandably low for a lot of people.

        Language teachers, faced with such circumstances, might well have
        felt the need to follow highly structured courses that fed students
        with a large spoon - full of something that might not really appeal
        to their own individual taste buds. It’s also understandable that so
        much time has traditionally been devoted to early L1 explanations of
        L2 grammar structures. After all, the method of emphasising early
        teaching and testing of grammar usually produces (almost) acceptable
        and (reasonably) rapid results.

        However, most teachers and students are now presented with a far
        better set of circumstances. More and more language students, even
        the relatively poor, have real opportunities to travel and work in
        different parts of the world. Those who want to stay at home often
        have the chance to communicate with others in different languages on
        the internet. A much larger pool of capable teachers together with a
        huge number of excellent resources are available to them. Nowadays
        the incentive to learn a foreign language is understandably a lot
        higher for a lot of people.

        Under these circumstances, traditional methodology can develop into
        something more flexible, meaningful and motivating. Word Surfing is
        an additional resource that can complement expanding learning
        opportunities and help learners to improve more independently
        outside the classroom. By having such a resource available to
        develop vocabulary knowledge in their own time and at their own
        pace, they may just be able to “wordsurf” their way into one of the
        many multi-lingual opportunities out there.

        Times change … and in today’s world, yesterday’s methodology may no
        longer be the best way to take advantage of current possibilities. A
        more developed publishing industry, new technologies and the
        internet give easy access to huge quantities of language learning
        information. Students are generally able to use better quality
        resources and can increasingly begin to experience a similar
        exposure to L2 as they received from their parents, family and
        friends when learning L1.

        Amazingly though, despite all these advances in opportunity,
        learning a new language remains fundamentally the same for the
        individual learner. The process still only involves…

        a) being exposed to the sounds and symbols of new words.
        b) getting to understand their meaning(s).
        c) reproducing the words….and
        d) practicing them in a variety of ways until they are known
        and can be used fluently and correctly to communicate with others.

        This has always been â€" and probably always will be - the basic
        development process for all L1 and L2 learners. With no magic
        language pills in sight, flexibility in the approach to learning is
        needed if students are to be able to take full advantage of whatever
        new language learning possibilities become available. It’s only by
        moving with the times that we can help to keep the learning process
        as efficient and enjoyable as possible.

        Having said that, L2 learners will probably always be able to
        benefit from basics like pen and paper. There is simply something
        special about the writing process. The short time taken to write
        things down tends to save a lot more time in the long run -
        especially when things are organised in a practical manner.

        Writing down new (or unfamiliar) vocabulary has always been a
        natural part of L2 acquisition, but the manner in which this has
        traditionally been done can certainly be improved upon. “Word
        Surfing” aims to make this activity as productive as possible
        through the use of well-organised vocabulary notebooks. The
        framework provided allows learners to prioritise the importance of
        their new words, use them in a variety of ways as soon as possible
        and efficiently check real progress.

        If they want to.

        The dancing photos in the previous post were nice too…by the way

        Best wishes
        Will McCulloch
        Vocabulary Developer
        http://www.wordsurfing.co.uk
        http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/wordsurfing/
      • Vance Stevens
        Buth, So nice to hear from you. Your web pages are fantastic. It s great that Webheads are keeping up the traditions, Buth (like Teresa and Aiden, recording
        Message 3 of 7 , Feb 7, 2004
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          Buth,

          So nice to hear from you. Your web pages are fantastic. It's great
          that Webheads are keeping up the traditions, Buth (like Teresa and
          Aiden, recording Webheads in various actions) and Dafne and company
          with the Becoming a Webhead session. Having set the cats in motion,
          this old cat herder is able to sit back and enjoy the fruits of so
          many efforts, and it is great to see the flowers bloom from the seeds
          sown over the past few years.

          It's time for a lesson though on `aspect'. Aspect is the
          relationship between width and height in pictures. Your pictures on
          your web pages look squashed, but this is easily fixable.

          Let's take this url for example: http://alothman-
          b.tripod.com/vance_workshop_jan2404.htm

          One of the pictures there is in the following table:
          <tr>
          <td><img src="vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg" width="300"
          height="270"></td>
          </tr>

          Now if you right click on the pic and select properties, you can see
          that the url for this pic is: http://alothman-
          b.tripod.com/vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg

          If you put that url in a browser and then right click on the picture
          (which displays in original size and aspect in the browser
          application) then you can right click on it, select properties, and
          see that its size is 640 x 480.

          There are two problems here.

          One, you are storing the BIG original at your website (lots of bytes)
          and displaying it small. It would save space to reduce the pictures
          to the size you want to display and store the reduced pictures at
          your website. It would also reduce download time when viewers of
          your pages could retrieve the smaller files off your server.

          The second problem is that by going from 640x480 to 300x270 you are
          changing aspect. 640 to 380 is a factor of 2.133 and 480 to 270 is a
          factor of 1.778. To preserve aspect, the factor should be the same
          in both dimensions. For example, you could reduce both dimensions by
          a factor of 2 and make all your pics 320x240. In that case you
          should change your syntax in the above table to

          <tr>
          <td><img src="vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg" width="320"
          height="240"></td>
          </tr>

          Of course you'd have to make similar changes to every picture
          displayed from each of your web pages. This would resolve the second
          problem mentioned above.

          To address the first problem, you'd have to get a photo editor that
          would reduce the size of your pictures and then replace the BIG files
          you have up at your site now with the small ones. These techniques
          were covered in our WIA2002 sessions, here:
          http://www.vancestevens.com/papers/evonline2002/syllabus.htm#wk6

          In this case you can give the above dimensions only if they are
          correct for the actual picture size OR simply give the syntax without
          setting width and height, like this:

          <tr>
          <td><img src="vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg"></td>
          </tr>

          Knowing Buth, I'm sure she appreciates this explanation, and knowing
          me, you know that I very much appreciate all the work that Buth and
          all the other Webheads in Action are doing. It is this work that I
          am honored present at the many venues at which I am invited to do so.

          I'm going to share these urls with all the people I can think of whom
          we met in Cairo.

          All the best,

          Vance

          PS - My Hot Metal gives me errors when I try to save my files without
          specifying an ALT parameter for my pictures. This happens only if I
          specify parameters WIDTH and HEIGHT. Hot Metal saves the files with
          the error and they display in browsers fine, as far as I can tell,
          but if annoyed by this problem, use this syntax:

          ><img src="vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg" width="320" height="240"
          alt="">

          V

          --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Buthaina Al Othman"
          <buthaina_3@y...> wrote:

          > "It is Important to Have Fun"; so it was dancing while crusing the
          > Nile! Check it out here
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_dancing_cairo_jan2304.htm
          >
          > The following URLs are of some new and updated pages on Vance's
          > Program, in Cairo,Jan 19 - 24, 2004:
          >
          > 1. Vance's Orientation Session at the IELP-II, (Jan 23, 2004)
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_ielp2_cairojan2304.htm
          >
          > 2. Some Screen Shots of Vance's Demo session with Webheads,(Jan 23,
          > 2004)
          >
          http://www.geocities.com/esl_efl_ku/vance_demosession_webheads_jan230
          > 4.htm
          >
          > 3. Mini-Workshop at CDIT- lab, (Jan 24, 2004)
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_workshop_jan2404.htm
          >
          > 4. EgyptWebheads portal page:(underconstruction)
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/egyptwebheads_portal_jan2404.htm
          >
          > 5. Vance's Keynote Speech at the 9th EFL Skills Conference by the
          > CACE, AUC, (Jan 21, 2004), updated:
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_auc_jan2104.htm
          >
          > 6. More Pictures of day one, updated:
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_pictures_aucjan2104.htm
          >
          > 7. Some more pictures of day one (audience), updated:
          > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_pictures2_aucjan2104.htm
          >
          > I hope you like them, :-)
          > Cheers!
          > Buth
        • Fernanda Rodrigues
          On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:13:41 -0000 ... It s quite easy to resize images with PaintShoPro... you can choose to resize them as a percentage of the original, or
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            On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:13:41 -0000
            "Vance Stevens" <vstevens@...> wrote:


            > It's time for a lesson though on `aspect'. Aspect is the
            > relationship between width and height in pictures. Your pictures on
            > your web pages look squashed, but this is easily fixable.

            It's quite easy to resize images with PaintShoPro... you can choose to
            resize them as a percentage of the original, or decide about height and
            width (for example, you may need to have a series of images with the
            same height).. paint shop pro will automatically resize the image
            preserving the original aspect, without distorting it.

            If you need help resizing with PSP, please say... I use it quite often


            Fernanda
          • Buthaina Al Othman
            Hi Vance, Thanks so much for the instructions and tips.I managed to edit and resize the pics on some of the pages, using Firework. Actually,I didn t use any
            Message 5 of 7 , Feb 7, 2004
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              Hi Vance,
              Thanks so much for the instructions and tips.I managed to edit and
              resize the pics on some of the pages, using Firework. Actually,I
              didn't use any photo editor this time, due to time pressure, as I
              started creating those page late and wanted to finish and post them
              to you all as soon as possible.For this reason,I had to used the
              image resizing feature available at my DreaWeaver.

              Usually, I use Firework or MS Photo Editor; they both works fine for
              me. But it's good that I learned not to rely on that feature
              included in DW for image resizing, next time.

              Thanks for the lesson and sorry about the squashed pictures. I will
              definitely fix the rest as soon as I can.

              Please have a look at the following pages with the the edited
              pictures:

              http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_workshop_jan2404.htm

              http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_auc_jan2104.htm

              http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_dancing_cairo_jan2304.htm

              Best regards,
              Buth
              PS Btw, did you have a good time at Dahab? I had a great time in
              Lebanon, but Cairo was different and more fun, :)
              And regarding the pictures in general, they're all saved on a CD. I
              can Fedex it to you or give it to you when we meet again in Long
              Beach. Let me which way do you prefer.


              --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Vance Stevens"
              <vstevens@e...> wrote:
              > Buth,
              >
              > So nice to hear from you. Your web pages are fantastic. It's
              great
              > that Webheads are keeping up the traditions, Buth (like Teresa and
              > Aiden, recording Webheads in various actions) and Dafne and
              company
              > with the Becoming a Webhead session. Having set the cats in
              motion,
              > this old cat herder is able to sit back and enjoy the fruits of so
              > many efforts, and it is great to see the flowers bloom from the
              seeds
              > sown over the past few years.
              >
              > It's time for a lesson though on `aspect'. Aspect is the
              > relationship between width and height in pictures. Your pictures
              on
              > your web pages look squashed, but this is easily fixable.
              >
              > Let's take this url for example: http://alothman-
              > b.tripod.com/vance_workshop_jan2404.htm
              >
              > One of the pictures there is in the following table:
              > <tr>
              > <td><img src="vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg" width="300"
              > height="270"></td>
              > </tr>
              >
              > Now if you right click on the pic and select properties, you can
              see
              > that the url for this pic is: http://alothman-
              > b.tripod.com/vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg
              >
              > If you put that url in a browser and then right click on the
              picture
              > (which displays in original size and aspect in the browser
              > application) then you can right click on it, select properties,
              and
              > see that its size is 640 x 480.
              >
              > There are two problems here.
              >
              > One, you are storing the BIG original at your website (lots of
              bytes)
              > and displaying it small. It would save space to reduce the
              pictures
              > to the size you want to display and store the reduced pictures at
              > your website. It would also reduce download time when viewers of
              > your pages could retrieve the smaller files off your server.
              >
              > The second problem is that by going from 640x480 to 300x270 you
              are
              > changing aspect. 640 to 380 is a factor of 2.133 and 480 to 270
              is a
              > factor of 1.778. To preserve aspect, the factor should be the
              same
              > in both dimensions. For example, you could reduce both dimensions
              by
              > a factor of 2 and make all your pics 320x240. In that case you
              > should change your syntax in the above table to
              >
              > <tr>
              > <td><img src="vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg" width="320"
              > height="240"></td>
              > </tr>
              >
              > Of course you'd have to make similar changes to every picture
              > displayed from each of your web pages. This would resolve the
              second
              > problem mentioned above.
              >
              > To address the first problem, you'd have to get a photo editor
              that
              > would reduce the size of your pictures and then replace the BIG
              files
              > you have up at your site now with the small ones. These
              techniques
              > were covered in our WIA2002 sessions, here:
              > http://www.vancestevens.com/papers/evonline2002/syllabus.htm#wk6
              >
              > In this case you can give the above dimensions only if they are
              > correct for the actual picture size OR simply give the syntax
              without
              > setting width and height, like this:
              >
              > <tr>
              > <td><img src="vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg"></td>
              > </tr>
              >
              > Knowing Buth, I'm sure she appreciates this explanation, and
              knowing
              > me, you know that I very much appreciate all the work that Buth
              and
              > all the other Webheads in Action are doing. It is this work that
              I
              > am honored present at the many venues at which I am invited to do
              so.
              >
              > I'm going to share these urls with all the people I can think of
              whom
              > we met in Cairo.
              >
              > All the best,
              >
              > Vance
              >
              > PS - My Hot Metal gives me errors when I try to save my files
              without
              > specifying an ALT parameter for my pictures. This happens only if
              I
              > specify parameters WIDTH and HEIGHT. Hot Metal saves the files
              with
              > the error and they display in browsers fine, as far as I can tell,
              > but if annoyed by this problem, use this syntax:
              >
              > ><img src="vance_egyptwebheads_jan2404.jpg" width="320"
              height="240"
              > alt="">
              >
              > V
            • Buthaina Al Othman
              Dear Fernanda, Thank you for suggesting PSP; I have just found it via google.com, however, it s not a freeware! I usually use Firework, which is included in my
              Message 6 of 7 , Feb 7, 2004
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                Dear Fernanda,
                Thank you for suggesting PSP; I have just found it via google.com,
                however, it's not a freeware! I usually use Firework, which is
                included in my DreamWeaver 4 package and soemtimes I use Microsoft
                photo editor. I would be appreciative if you could tell me what do
                you think of them.
                Appreciate your cooperation, :)
                Buth

                --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Fernanda Rodrigues
                <fernanda.rodrigues@n...> wrote:
                >
                > On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:13:41 -0000
                > "Vance Stevens" <vstevens@e...> wrote:
                >
                >
                > > It's time for a lesson though on `aspect'. Aspect is the
                > > relationship between width and height in pictures. Your
                pictures on
                > > your web pages look squashed, but this is easily fixable.
                >
                > It's quite easy to resize images with PaintShoPro... you can
                choose to
                > resize them as a percentage of the original, or decide about
                height and
                > width (for example, you may need to have a series of images with
                the
                > same height).. paint shop pro will automatically resize the image
                > preserving the original aspect, without distorting it.
                >
                > If you need help resizing with PSP, please say... I use it quite
                often
                >
                >
                > Fernanda
              • CJones
                Hi, Buth, How many hours did you spend on this? It s work well done. Seeing the crowd that Vance addressed at the plenary really helps others to see what an
                Message 7 of 7 , Feb 8, 2004
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                  Hi, Buth,

                  How many hours did you spend on this? It's work well done. Seeing the
                  crowd that Vance addressed at the plenary really helps others to see
                  what an impact he must have made. (A picture is indeed worth 1000
                  words!)

                  Chris Jones

                  P.S. I'm looking forward to meeting you at Long Beach in March.

                  --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Buthaina Al Othman"
                  <buthaina_3@y...> wrote:
                  > Hellow all,
                  > At last, I am back in Kuwait, following a 2-week wonderful holiday
                  > between Cairo and Beirut, where I extended my stay and arrived
                  home,
                  > early yesterday, instead of Feb 2nd.
                  >
                  > I spent the day composing and completing webpages on Vance's
                  > program, in Cairo, I promised to finish, publish, and post as soon
                  > as I'm back home.
                  >
                  > You are all welcome to view the pages on the program, including the
                  > one, showing the "Frivolous Unanticipated Nonsense", in Cairo, as
                  > Vance described it in an earlier message and in one of his
                  > presentations when he said:
                  > "It is Important to Have Fun"; so it was dancing while crusing the
                  > Nile! Check it out here
                  > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_dancing_cairo_jan2304.htm
                  >
                  > The following URLs are of some new and updated pages on Vance's
                  > Program, in Cairo,Jan 19 - 24, 2004:
                  >
                  > 1. Vance's Orientation Session at the IELP-II, (Jan 23, 2004)
                  > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_ielp2_cairojan2304.htm
                  >
                  > 2. Some Screen Shots of Vance's Demo session with Webheads,(Jan 23,
                  > 2004)
                  >
                  http://www.geocities.com/esl_efl_ku/vance_demosession_webheads_jan230
                  > 4.htm
                  >
                  > 3. Mini-Workshop at CDIT- lab, (Jan 24, 2004)
                  > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_workshop_jan2404.htm
                  >
                  > 4. EgyptWebheads portal page:(underconstruction)
                  > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/egyptwebheads_portal_jan2404.htm
                  >
                  > 5. Vance's Keynote Speech at the 9th EFL Skills Conference by the
                  > CACE, AUC, (Jan 21, 2004), updated:
                  > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_auc_jan2104.htm
                  >
                  > 6. More Pictures of day one, updated:
                  > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_pictures_aucjan2104.htm
                  >
                  > 7. Some more pictures of day one (audience), updated:
                  > http://alothman-b.tripod.com/vance_pictures2_aucjan2104.htm
                  >
                  > I hope you like them, :-)
                  > Cheers!
                  > Buth
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