Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Digesting Vance's MOOC Analysis
- Thanks John and Vance. I've added a link to Vance's blog in the comment section of this article I wrote on MOOCs a while ago. http://tutormentor.blogspot.com/2012/04/navigating-information-overload-moocs.html
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>From: John Hibbs <skipper@...>
>Sent: Nov 15, 2012 8:41 AM
>Cc: Stephen Downes <stephen@...>
>Subject: [evonline2002_webheads] Digesting Vance's MOOC Analysis
>The short of this post, by me, is what we all know. Vance Stevens is
>not just a tremendous Tribe Leader, (like Obama) he is also a
>brilliant writer and thinker. (like Obama). What he advances in the
>post (above) is solid proof of this.
>The best part? Like choosing between a Ferrari, Maserati, Lexus, BMW,
>Cadillac, or Mercedes - from such a rich banquet, I thought it was
>this:(thank you Steven Downes):
>>"Stephen Downes was once asked why he would flog himself across the
>>back with a course open to thousands (snip snip) when Downes could
>>have left it at just the two dozen (snip snip), and he replied
>Here's are two of the brightest gems:
>>GEM ONE: Says Downs: ..."because I would learn from it."
>>GEM TWO: Says Stevens: "This is the prime motivator for setting up a cMOOC".
>Ladies and Gentlemen: This is Very Big Stuff. Mind bending, game
>changing, iconic, watershed, tidal wave --- you pick the term.
>Me? I think this is one of those really, truly "watershed moments" --
>not quite as "visible" as Sputnik or John Glenn and the Mercury Stage
>on the way to the moon...but given the power of all the Web tools,
>access, speed, impact, publicity, and most certainly both the
>protection of the University brand and their requirement to not be
>"diluted" AND the escalating costs to acquire the "ultimate button" -
>a "real" diploma from a "real" University. (yes, I know,
>"certificates" are boiling hot issue and a reasonably big part of my
>polemic re the hazards of a MOOC from Coursera). To include my
>conviction that ESL plays a Very Big Part. You have heard this chant
>from me repeatedly
>GEM 3 from Hibbs -"Inside ESL classrooms are the leaders of tomorrow
>and the connective tissues to reach the (community) leaders of
>today.....in every single corner of the world."
>So where do "we" go from here?
>Let me just ask some questions
>1. Can Downes or Vance, (plus those referenced in the Stevens
>article) agree on a Landing Place where these threads can be (mostly)
>pulled together? A wide open Forum, probably with several different
>threads. (NOTE: Coursera had so many Forums they became more problem
>than solution! ugh!!!) How do you manage a Forum? A Thread. Where is
>the "best" MOOC Landing place? And how do "we" make it THE magnet ,
>megaphone and World Class Think Tank for MOOCs?And how is it funded?
>2. What Threads would be inside that Landing Place? such as:
>a) It's obvious that there is plenty of demand for a "semi-massive"
>MOOC course(s) 101, 102, 103, up to 501, 502 503. Who could put 101
>together and offer it widely. How could that person be well paid?
>b) MOOC Tools In a Box? Tools for advocacy groups? Tools for
>training? Tools for fundraising? Tools for learning groups? Tools for
>Assessment? Rewards? Certification? Tools for broadcasting, outreach,
>archives? Chaos "management"?
>c) MOOCs on the Moon -- You think I'm kidding? 50 years ago JFK gave
>a speech you should either watch or read
>Substitute a very few words in that speech with the challenges and
>opportunities today, and I think you will agree that if "we" had a
>person of JFK stature -- Sir John Daniel? - the prime goal of
>accelerating access to education, reducing costs, and vastly
>improving outcomes is a "job"as important as any leader of anywhere.
>(If Obama had lost, I would have run him down via his brother in law,
>just up the road from Eugene....but I digress.
>d) and, to repeat, how do you fund the Landing Place?
>Thank you Vance. I feel a lot better; maybe it's because being your
>junior partner put too much stress on me. Big shoes worn by those
>with small feet make for a clumsy walk. Or big pratfall.
>Seriously, thank you...ALL of you!!!!
>P.S. Here you can find the text of my "Prepared Remarks" for the GEC
>Presentation where Vance carried the whole load.
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