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  • Maria D
    Hi Clair, I love your project! Although we are about to finish the school year here in Argentina, I know one of our groups will be delighted to post their
    Message 1 of 26 , Nov 8, 2011
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      Hi Clair,

      I love your project! Although we are about to finish the school year here in Argentina, I know one of our groups will be delighted to post their comments. I wonder if you can give me some background information about your students - ours are very curious and I'm sure they'll want to know as much as possible about them.

      Thanks!
      Mary

      --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, ClairMichelle Taylor <clairmichelletaylor@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hello,
      > If any of your classes are learning about illness/injury my low intermediate students have just written their 'scar stories'. They'd love for students in another country to comment on their posts, and be happy to return the favor.
      >
      > http://togakun9.posterous.com/?page=2
      >
      >
      > They aren't as exciting as B's recipe videos, but some of the stories are pretty interesting.
      >
      > Best, clair
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    • Barbara Dieu
      Hi Carla, I think you need to log in to be able to comment on YouTube. Once I have all the videos, I will embed them on a blog page together with the recipes.
      Message 2 of 26 , Nov 8, 2011
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        Hi Carla,
        I think you need to log in to be able to comment on YouTube. Once I
        have all the videos, I will embed them on a blog page together with
        the recipes.

        Thanks for the comments from all over the world. The kids are ecstatic
        - it's their first contact with the open web and due to the
        popularity, Lance has opened a cooking blog of his own (not for a
        mark, not an assignment - just a reaction to your comments!)
        letscook-lg.blogspot.com

        B.


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      • Teresa Almeida d'Eca
        Hi Bee! You re right about needing to log in. I had the same problem as Carla. I m fascinated with your students enthusiasm and to see what a difference
        Message 3 of 26 , Nov 8, 2011
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          Hi Bee!

          You're right about needing to log in. I had the same problem as Carla.

          I'm fascinated with your students' enthusiasm and to see what a
          difference "contact with the outside world can make". I totally go with
          Michael's comment about your students. They certainly demonstrate
          different literacies.

          I left two comments in their blog.

          Hugs, Teresa






          On 08-11-2011 16:31, Barbara Dieu wrote:
          >
          > Hi Carla,
          > I think you need to log in to be able to comment on YouTube. Once I
          > have all the videos, I will embed them on a blog page together with
          > the recipes.
          >
          > Thanks for the comments from all over the world. The kids are ecstatic
          > - it's their first contact with the open web and due to the
          > popularity, Lance has opened a cooking blog of his own (not for a
          > mark, not an assignment - just a reaction to your comments!)
          > letscook-lg.blogspot.com
          >
          > B.
          >
          > --
          > Barbara Dieu
          > http://barbaradieu.com
          > http://beespace.net
          >
          >


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        • ClairMichelle Taylor
          Hi Mary, Thanks for taking a look at their project!  They are freshman students, mostly aged 19, at a Japanese university: http://www.tyg.jp/ They are all
          Message 4 of 26 , Nov 8, 2011
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            Hi Mary,

            Thanks for taking a look at their project! 
            They are freshman students, mostly aged 19, at a Japanese university:
            http://www.tyg.jp/
            They are all human sciences majors - many want to become school counsellors or sports coaches. They are a nice group - lots of shy but lovely students. 
            I will try to get a photo up on the site.

            Clair

            I love your project! Although we are about to finish the school year here in Argentina, I know one of our groups will be delighted to post their comments. I wonder if you can give me some background information about your students - ours are very curious and I'm sure they'll want to know as much as possible about them.

            Thanks!
            Mary



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          • dk
            Although food is so important in our lives, students often don t know how to talk about it. Intermediate level students can often tell you about their jobs,
            Message 5 of 26 , Nov 9, 2011
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              Although food is so important in our lives, students often don't know how to
              talk about it. Intermediate level students can often tell you about their
              jobs, commute, family, etc, but when you ask them to describe their favorite
              food in English and especially when you ask them how to make it, they find
              this English challenging.

              They usually don't have a firm command of signposting: first, then, after
              that, don't forget. They may know nouns like table, plate, spoon, but do
              they know nouns like bowl, oven, spatula, recipe? They may know verbs like
              cook, bake, fry, but do they know verbs like stir, slice, mix.

              In truth, our students will probably not need a lot of this vocabulary very
              much and that is why skills for talking about cooking may develop later in
              their English learning development. It is doubtful how often they will use
              the word "spatula" and we shouldn't fault them for not knowing it and
              perhaps we shouldn't even bother really teaching it. Some of these things we
              can just mention to students, introduce these words to students, but not
              really expect students to "know" them.

              But some of this language is great for intermediate students to learn and
              practice, signposting words like "first", "and now we will", "but before you
              do that". This kind of language is useful in all realms of English
              communication.

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            • Barbara Dieu
              ... This is because workbooks  sequence the learning units this way and pre-decide what is important for them to know first  notwithstanding students
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                > Intermediate level students can often tell you about their jobs, commute, family, etc, but when you ask them to describe their favorite food in English and especially when you ask them how to make it, they find this English challenging.

                This is because workbooks  sequence the learning units this way and
                pre-decide what is important for them to know first  notwithstanding
                students' personal interests or needs. None of my students work, let
                alone commute but, from what I have just discovered, many enjoy
                cooking and eating.

                >They may know nouns like table, plate, spoon, but do they know nouns like bowl, oven, spatula, recipe? They may know verbs like cook, bake, fry, but do they know verbs like stir, slice, mix...
                > In truth, our students will probably not need a lot of this vocabulary very much and that is why skills for talking about cooking may develop later in their English learning development.

                Again...same thing....who decides what they will need or not?
                Anglo-Saxon publishers?
                To exemplify: many of the words the students used in the video were
                not  even mentioned in class. They went after them in their need to
                describe the action they were performing. Should we restrict them on
                the grounds it's not useful vocabulary?

                >It is doubtful how often they will use the word "spatula"
                Spatula  is a word of Latin origin and the same word is used in
                Portuguese so they have absolutely no problem with it. I suppose in
                China it may seem superfluous, but here I am sure they did not even
                bother to check whether the word existed in English.

                >we shouldn't fault them for not knowing it and perhaps we shouldn't even bother really teaching it.
                Nobody here would fault them for not knowing - we applaud them for
                including new words they feel like using. In the instructions I gave
                them I said they would be marked on the wealth of vocabulary used to
                describe their actions. So it's their responsibility to look for what
                they need - I cannot predict what recipe they will choose.

                However, David, I understand the point you are trying to make : try
                to be efficient in your teaching and focus on high frequency words
                instead of going into details and do not penalize them for not knowing
                more than you taught them.

                Best regards,
                B.

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              • edtec2002
                Hi, Bee, I can t resist commenting that I, too, was very impressed with your students videos. Thanks so much for sharing. Chris Jones
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                  Hi, Bee,

                  I can't resist commenting that I, too, was very impressed with your students videos. Thanks so much for sharing.

                  Chris Jones

                  --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Dieu <beeonline@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Two weeks ago my 12-13-year olds had a unit on cooking and recipes. We
                  > had loads of fun discussing preferences in class and for homework I
                  > asked them to get in pairs and make a video of themselves preparing a
                  > recipe. I gave them a rough plan of what I wanted to see (so they
                  > would use the vocabulary and structures they had learnt).
                  >
                  > I was impressed with the results and their "aisance" before the camera
                  > and in the kitchen. The cakes and cookies they brought to class when
                  > they showed their film were yummy as well. Try the Queen of Sheba
                  > (Reine de Saba) cake recipe (two words they did not know in English
                  > and they use in the film: maizena is corn starch and castanha do pará
                  > is Brazil nuts)
                  >
                  > Two groups have already posted their recipes on YouTube so sharing
                  > them with you.
                  >
                  > Lance and Juan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTgdUl2iSsU
                  > Sophie and Laura: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-r5ukgZc9I
                  >
                  > Warm regards from Brazil,
                  > B.
                  >
                  >
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                  > http://beespace.net
                  >
                • Barbara Dieu
                  Thank you, Chris. Long time no hear! B. -- Barbara Dieu http://barbaradieu.com http://beespace.net
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                    Thank you, Chris.
                    Long time no hear!
                    B.


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                  • Luiz Reikdal
                    Hey, I ve been watching the videos on YouTube! They are yummy! I ve given them some feedback! So inspiring... I might start teaching at school next year where
                    Message 9 of 26 , Nov 10, 2011
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                      Hey, I've been watching the videos on YouTube! They are yummy!
                      I've given them some feedback! So inspiring...
                      I might start teaching at school next year where they teach English through/with technology, puppetry, storytelling and cooking! And guess what? I'll try some of the recipes from your "ELT chefs" ;)
                      Barbara, have you seen this book "Not Just Hamburgers" by Virginia Klie? It is awesome!!!! Loads of recipes, both in English and Portuguese. Worth taking a look! I have a hunch you are a great cook as well, arent't you? LOL

                      Take care and congratulations on the FANTABULOUS job!!!!!!
                      ;)
                      Luiz Reikdal
                      @ELTtech
                    • Barbara Dieu
                      Thank you for the comments on the kids videos, Luiz and your book recommendation. I will check it out :-) I have listed all the video links I have already
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                        Thank you for the comments on the kids' videos, Luiz and your book
                        recommendation. I will check it out :-)

                        I have listed all the video links I have already received from them on one
                        page, together with the plan I gave them in case any of you want to
                        reproduce it (and improve on it)
                        http://lycee.wordpress.com/projects/videos/cooking/

                        Best regards,
                        B.

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                      • Maria D
                        Thanks, Clair! I talked to our students yesterday and they are quite interested in the idea. Because of the time of year for us, they ll be doing this from
                        Message 11 of 26 , Nov 10, 2011
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                          Thanks, Clair! I talked to our students yesterday and they are quite interested in the idea. Because of the time of year for us, they'll be doing this from home, so we looked at how to enter the blog and post comments. The thing is that they're in a younger age band (13 to 15, at secondary school)Your students might find their comments a bit childish :-) Anyway, I'm sure they'll love the experience of getting in touch with people who are so far away.

                          Cheers,
                          Mary

                          --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, ClairMichelle Taylor <clairmichelletaylor@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > Hi Mary,
                          >
                          > Thanks for taking a look at their project! 
                          > They are freshman students, mostly aged 19, at a Japanese university:
                          > http://www.tyg.jp/
                          > They are all human sciences majors - many want to become school counsellors or sports coaches. They are a nice group - lots of shy but lovely students. 
                          > I will try to get a photo up on the site.
                          >
                          > Clair
                          >
                          > I love your project! Although we are about to finish the school year here in Argentina, I know one of our groups will be delighted to post their comments. I wonder if you can give me some background information about your students - ours are very curious and I'm sure they'll want to know as much as possible about them.
                          >
                          > Thanks!
                          > Mary
                          >
                          >
                          >
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                        • Bohdana Navratilova
                          Great videos, very inspiring. Bohdana
                          Message 12 of 26 , Nov 10, 2011
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                            Great videos, very inspiring.
                            Bohdana

                            --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Dieu <beeonline@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Two weeks ago my 12-13-year olds had a unit on cooking and recipes. We
                            > had loads of fun discussing preferences in class and for homework I
                            > asked them to get in pairs and make a video of themselves preparing a
                            > recipe. I gave them a rough plan of what I wanted to see (so they
                            > would use the vocabulary and structures they had learnt).
                            >
                            > I was impressed with the results and their "aisance" before the camera
                            > and in the kitchen. The cakes and cookies they brought to class when
                            > they showed their film were yummy as well. Try the Queen of Sheba
                            > (Reine de Saba) cake recipe (two words they did not know in English
                            > and they use in the film: maizena is corn starch and castanha do pará
                            > is Brazil nuts)
                            >
                            > Two groups have already posted their recipes on YouTube so sharing
                            > them with you.
                            >
                            > Lance and Juan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTgdUl2iSsU
                            > Sophie and Laura: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-r5ukgZc9I
                            >
                            > Warm regards from Brazil,
                            > B.
                            >
                            >
                            > --
                            > Barbara Dieu
                            > http://barbaradieu.com
                            > http://beespace.net
                            >
                          • ClairMichelle Taylor
                            Thanks! Japanese students tend to be young for their age, so I m sure they will be pleased with whatever comments they get! They hadn t done anything like
                            Message 13 of 26 , Nov 10, 2011
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                              Thanks! Japanese students tend to be 'young' for their age, so I'm sure they will be pleased with whatever comments they get! They hadn't done anything like this until this semester so it is all exciting and new for them.

                              Clair




                               
                              Thanks, Clair! I talked to our students yesterday and they are quite interested in the idea. Because of the time of year for us, they'll be doing this from home, so we looked at how to enter the blog and post comments. The thing is that they're in a younger age band (13 to 15, at secondary school)Your students might find their comments a bit childish :-) Anyway, I'm sure they'll love the experience of getting in touch with people who are so far away.



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