- What exactly are these jobs they were educated for? Most hardly can even write! Btw,China has become very wealthy thanks to people like Walton. It is AmericaMessage 1 of 47 , Jul 10, 2013View SourceWhat exactly are these jobs they were educated for? Most hardly can even write!Btw,China has become very wealthy thanks to people like Walton.It is America which is becoming more poor with every day.The major problem with outsourcing is not abuse of foreign workers,but a destruction of manufacturing branch here in USA.AnnaFull circle, because they can't find jobs for which they are educated or trained. Those are all over the globe by the greed of a certain few like the Walton family.'Pini
On Jul 9, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
Pini,As I said there are of course local abuses in the the system but the system itself is great for everyone.Very simple question. If the jobs those poor SE Asian workers have are not the best available then why are they working there by the millions?Obviously it's because they are the best available therefor you are doing them a favor by buying the cheap goods they produce because it enables them to pay their bills and feed their families.And BTW they are NOT "by and large under age". Some are certainly and they are wonderful kids working like good kids always do to contribute to their family's common good..It's the spoiled western kids that don't work or produce anything worthwhile at all you should be concerned about...EdgarOn Jul 9, 2013, at 10:22 AM, nini wrote:The 'poor' workers in Asia are by and large under age.And remember the scandalous big fires in Bangladesh?I'm sure those who perished are just soooo happy.If we all practiced intelligent and caring consumerism the whole world would be better.'Pini
On Jul 9, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
Pini,Glad to hear you have enough money so the amount you spend on things doesn't matter to you!Seriously what you fail to understand is that the 'poor' workers in SE Asia that are producing goods for Walmart are doing so precisely because they are the best paying jobs around. So it is good for them also.So by buying at Walmart and other importers of SE Asian consumer goods you ARE DOING A FAVOR TO THE WORKERS OVER THERE BY BETTERING THEIR CONDITION IN LIFE compared to what they would otherwise be making....Obviously there are local abuses in the system and ways it could be improved, as there are in all systems, but the system itself is great and good for everyone....EdgarOn Jul 9, 2013, at 8:50 AM, nini wrote:Yes, I for one, would be happier because it would be a much more honest country STANDING UP for principles on which it was founded; protecting the common human.We don't need to enrich the likes of the Walton family, for example, still more.I, for one, will not darken a Walmart's door.'PiniPs think you meant to address this to Don and I.
On Jul 9, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
Pini, and RAF,Those "damned employers" outsource jobs to do YOU and me a favor by being able to offer consumer goods at ridiculously low prices. If all consumer products were made in the US by US workers they would be MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE, at least 2x and likely 5x or more for many products...The US unemployed would all have jobs and incomes but wouldn't be able to buy much with the money. Would you two be happy then?Don't you guys get it?EdgarOn Jul 8, 2013, at 10:24 PM, nini wrote:
Hi RobinSince I'm generally in a chemo lab in the am, it's rather difficult for me to post lengthy tracts on why I say what I did.I think Don presented a sound case.Would anyone here care to dig ditches, do landscaping, wash dishes, etc. etc. etc.I would bet not.A very high number of the unemployed have at least a college education. True, I did something similar to the above when I was in EMT school, and Med School, but to ask any one to combine 3 of these style jobs, (because, in order to maintain a living wage in the USA, 3 jobs as in the above example, are necessary).And as Don also correctly pointed out, many of these college and beyond educated persons would NOT NEED unemployment if their damned employers would quit outsourcing jobs!!!'piniOn Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:43 PM, rafonda@... <rafonda@...> wrote:As Steve Moxon used to say: you can learn a lot of evolutionary psychology from the posters' attitudes ... though less often from the explicit content of their posts ;-(
From: Robin Whittle <rw@...>
Cc: nini <winyan7@...>
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 5:29 AM
Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Fewer Than Half Of Americans Have Full Time JobsHi 'Pini,non-illegal-immigrants not being able to find work. ...
I find it boring to read people simply stating their belief on a mailing
list. It happens way too often - I am not suggesting only you do it.
You wrote of the purported relationship between illegal immigration into
the USA of around 20 million people and unemployment amongst people who
live there who are not illegal immigrants, in a situation where a
substantial proportion of the illegal immigrants work:
> That's because there is no relationship.
I think it would be interesting if you wrote why millions of jobs being
done by illegal immigrants has no relationship to millions ofThe way I interpret her denial of the obvious is that she is manifesting her genetic identification with the mestizo invaders. She cares little for the plight of unemployed euro-descendants, especially if they are males, as she has made it obvious in previous posts that she 'buys into' the PC doctrine of the white-male-oppressor.RAF
- not much ditch digging goes on nini...most is done with tools and you need skills...merle ... �not much ditch digging goes on nini...most is done with toolsMessage 47 of 47 , Jul 10, 2013View SourceOn 11/07/2013, at 12:17 AM, nini wrote: