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Re: [evol-psych] IRS as a Political Hit Squad

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  • merle lester
    keep em poor and keep em stupid is the mantra of the right wing fanatics..merle ... keep em poor and keep em stupid is the mantra of the right wing
    Message 1 of 5 , May 20, 2013

       keep em poor and keep em stupid is the mantra of the right wing  fanatics..merle

      On 20/05/2013, at 2:35 PM, Anna wrote:

      To poor people consumption tax would take all their earning; to wealthy people only what they consume  while their real assets stay  free of tax.
      From: mark hubey
      Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:16 AM
      To: Evol
      Subject: Re: [evol-psych] IRS as a Political Hit Squad

      Unless the consumption tax is steeply progressive (which can be done) it needs to be also backed up by something like a wealth tax, but either would be better than the present system, especially now we are computerized up to our gills!

      On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Anna <pantheon@...> wrote:

      IRS as a Political Hit Squad



      IRS as a Political Hit Squad

      When the Internal Revenue Service admits to violations of law by targeting limited government advocate organizations, you know that the non-divulged crimes are much worse. The discloser in the mainstream media is a pleasant astonishment. The usual pattern of protecting "Big Government" is still intact, while the noise and agency diversion on the abuses of the IRS avoid the fundamental problem with federal taxation, based upon a system of deductions, exemptions, incentives and grants. The extortion and intimidation in the enforcement of the tax code is the entrusted role assigned to the IRS by the political hacks that administer the social engineering experiment that is fundamentally changing America.

      The politicalization of the system is premeditated. The revelation that Obama governance resulted in 
      IRS scrutiny went beyond Tea Party, targeting of conservative groups broader than thought, should not be shocking. The sycophants in federal employment have a deranged hostility towards any voice that defends and promotes constitutional federalism. Foxnews reports:

      "The internal IG timeline shows a unit in the agency was looking at Tea Party and "patriot" groups dating back to early 2010. But it shows that list of criteria drastically expanding by the time a June 2011 briefing was held. It then included groups focused on government spending, government debt, taxes, and education on ways to "make America a better place to live." It even flagged groups whose file included criticism of "how the country is being run."

      By early 2012, the criteria were updated to include organizations involved in "limiting/expanding government," education on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and social economic reform."

      The game of citing partisan hypocrisy in describing respective "enemy lists" avoids the necessary task of replacing the taxation labyrinth, designed to select winners and losers. Every administration uses the bureaucracy to punish political foes and most presidencies intentionally engage in illegal retribution, but all share the virtual immunity from prosecution for their misdeeds. What can we reasonably expect from this Obama scandal? It certainly has the hallmark of being a far more severe constitutional violation than those committed in the heyday of the LBJ, Nixon and Clinton outlaws.

      Now be forewarned, that the IRS is charged with overseeing compliance under Obamacare. Giving a mandate for expansion under this current cloud of criminality is the height of arrogance. Notwithstanding, the irreversible loss in credibility, the wholesale revamping of the method of taxation should be examined and a trustworthy replacement adopted. However, before reviewing one such alteration, it must be pointed out, that collecting taxes to finance governmental operations is not the primary purpose of the current system.

      Perpetual trillion dollar deficits demonstrate that raising revenue to pay for federal programs lacks the ability to balance budgets. The principal function of the Internal Revenue Service is to facilitate the tax avoidance practices of corporatist transnational conglomerates. The retaliatory mission against working class citizens is ostensibly a disciplinary process to maintain control over the finances of producing contributors. Inhibiting upward mobility for the populace, while accelerating elite’s wealth accumulation, is the destructive result of the tax code.

      The Hill offers a solution in the article, 
      House GOP seeks to abolish IRS, replace income tax with consumption tax.

      "The FairTax Act, from Rep. Rob Woodall (R-Ga.), would abolish the 16th Amendment, which was ratified 100 years ago this February. That amendment gives Congress the power to impose income taxes without having to spend the revenues evenly among the states.

      Woodall's bill, H.R. 25, would replace the current tax system with a 23 percent consumption tax on all new goods and services. He said Thursday that this change would eliminate the need for a complicated tax code, and would be the kind of tax reform that helps reinvigorate the economy."

      The merits or criticism of a consumption tax and certainly any final amount of the levy certainly deserves a vigorous national debate. However, the need for eliminating the byzantine complexity and inherent inequity in the present punitive tax collection system should be unanimous.

      Obviously, the prospect that the establishment ruling class would allow the slaughter of their cash-cow is zero. The entire existence of the Tea Party movement grew out of a desire to restore the principle of no taxation without representation. Yet, the efforts out of the authoritarian globalists are to ramp up even more draconian measures to monitor and intrude into every financial affair of normal people.

      The only prudent political response to this intolerable obliteration of our eternal right to the pursuit of happiness is to require a return to the pre income tax system of revenue collection. Just listen to the screams, from those progressive socialists, who demand that the State must use their penalizing power to force egalitarian redistribution upon every wealth creator or economic producer.

      The calculated fear factor imbedded into the Internal Revenue Service goes well beyond targeting just conservative groups. Every self-respecting American shares a vested interest in restoring a constitutional government. As it stands now, the prospect of achieving even a reasonable prospect of legitimate authorities is incompatible as long as the IRS is allowed to run amok over the masses who are attempting to petition and redress their government.


      USA Today reports, Obama calls purported IRS targeting "outrageous", from the latest Obama presidential press conference.

      "Obama says first learned about the IRS controversy from news reports. He called the purported targeting of conservative groups by IRS personnel "outrageous and there is no place for it." The IRS has to have "absolute integrity, " Obama adds.

      "You don't want the IRS ever being perceived to be biased," Obama said.

      The president adds that his administration will get to the bottom of what happened at the IRS. "I have no patience for it. I will not tolerate it."

      How can anyone believe that Obama has clean hands or that some faction within the Internal Revenue Service was operating without his knowledge? Well Mr. President, prove the meaning in your words and put forth the political capital to pass the H.R. 25 legislation.

      James Hall – May 15, 2013

      Mark Hubey
      "Learning to think in mathematical terms is an essential part of becoming a liberally educated person. "
      -- Kenyon College Math Department Web Page

    • rafonda@frontier.com
      ... Yes, it would be very easy to exempt food (of a basic nature, IOW, not caviar and alcohol, truffles, candy and so on), USED or work clothing, rent or
      Message 2 of 5 , May 20, 2013
        Unless the consumption tax is steeply progressive (which can be done) <

        Yes, it would be very easy to exempt food (of a 'basic' nature, IOW, not caviar and alcohol, truffles, candy and so on), USED or work clothing, rent or mortgage payments on ONE house or apartment up to the median, USED cars and work trucks, a modest amount of electrical power and heating/vehicle fuel allowance, and let everything else come with a low-double-digit sales tax. Poor people would not be hurt unless they bought extravagant items. The reason something like this is not done is that the elites WANT the power that comes from being able to seize money and property and thus intimidate people, as well as the opportunity to escape taxation through 'loopholes' their political sock-puppets provide.

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