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  • Brad
    Here s an article written by a woman about women. On money-grabbing… Written by Claire-Louise Meadows …and why it’s nothing To Be Proud Of I would like
    Message 1 of 31 , May 13, 2013
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      Here's an article written by a woman about women.
      On money-grabbing…

      Written by Claire-Louise Meadows
      …and why it’s nothing To Be Proud Of
      I would like to praise Liz Hodgkinson for her article in the Daily Mail today entitled  ‘We Fought for Equality. So Why Do Greedy Wives Still Sponge Off Their Ex-Husbands?’
      It’s a question I’ve often wondered about, in spite of my own experiences. You see, when my father left my mother back in 1995, with three children to support and a mortgage to pay, he withdrew every single penny from the family savings, meaning my mother could not pay our mortgage, meaning we eventually had to move into corporation housing.
      Not content with this level of douche-baggery, he dropped completely out of sight, and changed his name to avoid paying child-support. My mother never saw a penny of support from him because no-one could pin him down – he moved like quicksilver. ( who wants to be a slave? )
      Now you would have thought seeing my own mother struggle for years, I would be up on my chair, screaming ‘YOU GO GIRL’ every time someone screwed a huge settlement out of their ex-husband.
      Wrong.
      I think it’s disgusting. Because I’m a sensible human being who realises no other man has to be punished for my father’s behaviour. What’s more, I feel that there is a significant moral degradation present in anyone who takes more than what they are actually entitled to. I’m talking about those ‘I’m entitled to a percentage of your future earnings FOREVER AND EVER’ women.
      That’s right – forever and ever. Even if you had nothing to do with setting up his successful business enterprise. Even if you didn’t work a goddamn day to help him make that money for 25 years.
      You are entitled to earn off his future earnings. Even if you are no longer together? Even if you don’t have children?
      How can those women look at themselves in the mirror in the morning? What’s more how is this possible by law?
      I told my own husband just the other evening during a debate on this very issue:
      ‘Even if there was a point where I hated you so much that I could barely bear to look at you, if I took more than I’d put in, more than was actually mine, I would consider that I had failed as a human being.
      And how on earth could I justify grabbing at your future earnings? In that situation, if I didn’t want you, I wouldn’t want your money either.’
      And I mean it.
      ‘These men are just giving us what they owe us – you take what you can get’. Oh do me a favour – is this equality we’re talking about?
      Because it seems like damned greed to me.
      And it’s nothing to be proud of.
      Here’s Liz Hodgkinson’s article in full. It’s worth a read:
      Written by Claire-Louise Meadows
       


       
      Brad



      "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."


      -- George Orwell

      From: merle lester <bmlester@...>
      To: evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:52 PM
      Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Re: A great quote from Thomas Sowell

       




      mark hubey... you have deep seated ignorance within your being...your post here is totally ridiculous and is total nonsense..grow up and get an education..merle


      Don't worry about her. She is either a high-school kid, or belongs to the special class of ignorant servants of the brand-new improved aristocrats of modern capitalist-socialist systems. This class is the one that is at the root of destruction of all civilization. They make corruption possible by elevating ignorance, stupidity, arts & farts, fiction-reading, speculation, sports, acting, pretense as the supreme intellectual activity and the ultimate supreme goal of all humanity.  They are piled up at
      universities peddling what leftists do best, e.g. dissemination of shoddy government goodies , in this case, pretense education, as a freebie from those that allegedly love the poor human masses and are giving them what they crave e.g. intellectual welfare licenses that will allow them to get what they ultimately want, which happens to be money. And they will get it, by getting jobs for which they are unqualified and which are at the root of all corruption. 



      This:

      > yes...selfishness reigns supreme in  many minds...the reptilian brain  is well and truly alive in mark and rafonda...merle <

      and other insults are especially ironic in the context of another of her attempts at rebuttal:

      you are ... intellectual incompetent <

      But those of us who are mere men must endure whatever incivility women wish to heap upon us. And those of us who have the temerity to fail to appreciate the inherent VIRTUE of government seizure of our earnings are not merely mistaken in our political views, but SELFISH.  Then she asks: 

      > is not part of the taxes to help those who are struggling because they have with no fault of their own ...fallen by the wayside?... <

      One wonders if she had in mind those iconic welfare recipients, the Boston Bombers ... that enriching diversity we imported from Chechnya. 

      Since this is a PSYCHOLOGY discussion forum, I would like to call attention to the IMPLICIT THEORY OF MIND one infers from another of her comments. 

      feel left out because you  never went to university huh?..sour grapes RAF and such a mean spirited human being <

      Is this not akin to the kleptocrat attitude that EVERYONE would like to live useless lives in luxury at the expense of working people (after all, who else actually PRODUCES anything?) if only they were CLEVER enough to do so? 

      If we bear in mind that, as an ART TEACHER, she has been living in comfort all her life on money seized from WORKING people, while doing something she enjoys, but which is essentially useless, then I think we can infer that her constant blathering about "caring and sharing" is rationalization. She doesn't want to see herself as a 'parasite' and 'thief of labor' (the marxist terms, not mine, but I have to say that in such a case they have a point) so she 'doubles down' and supports MORE government, and tells herself, and us, that is a sign of her moral virtue: to take OUR money to help others (as well as herself) because she is SO caring. It is pretty clear that the "sharing" part of her formula is her "sharing" money other people earned.

      Actually, far from feeling "sour grapes", I CHERISH my decades of 'right livelihood' and not only because it has brought me to my current, quite acceptable circumstances, but also because I would not want the karma of having lived on money taken from working people.

      RAF















      -- 
      Regards,
      Mark Hubey

      "Learning to think in mathematical terms is an essential part of becoming a liberally educated person. "
      -- Kenyon College Math Department Web Page 






    • Brad
      Here s an article written by a woman about women. On money-grabbing… Written by Claire-Louise Meadows …and why it’s nothing To Be Proud Of I would like
      Message 31 of 31 , May 13, 2013
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        Here's an article written by a woman about women.
        On money-grabbing…

        Written by Claire-Louise Meadows
        …and why it’s nothing To Be Proud Of
        I would like to praise Liz Hodgkinson for her article in the Daily Mail today entitled  ‘We Fought for Equality. So Why Do Greedy Wives Still Sponge Off Their Ex-Husbands?’
        It’s a question I’ve often wondered about, in spite of my own experiences. You see, when my father left my mother back in 1995, with three children to support and a mortgage to pay, he withdrew every single penny from the family savings, meaning my mother could not pay our mortgage, meaning we eventually had to move into corporation housing.
        Not content with this level of douche-baggery, he dropped completely out of sight, and changed his name to avoid paying child-support. My mother never saw a penny of support from him because no-one could pin him down – he moved like quicksilver. ( who wants to be a slave? )
        Now you would have thought seeing my own mother struggle for years, I would be up on my chair, screaming ‘YOU GO GIRL’ every time someone screwed a huge settlement out of their ex-husband.
        Wrong.
        I think it’s disgusting. Because I’m a sensible human being who realises no other man has to be punished for my father’s behaviour. What’s more, I feel that there is a significant moral degradation present in anyone who takes more than what they are actually entitled to. I’m talking about those ‘I’m entitled to a percentage of your future earnings FOREVER AND EVER’ women.
        That’s right – forever and ever. Even if you had nothing to do with setting up his successful business enterprise. Even if you didn’t work a goddamn day to help him make that money for 25 years.
        You are entitled to earn off his future earnings. Even if you are no longer together? Even if you don’t have children?
        How can those women look at themselves in the mirror in the morning? What’s more how is this possible by law?
        I told my own husband just the other evening during a debate on this very issue:
        ‘Even if there was a point where I hated you so much that I could barely bear to look at you, if I took more than I’d put in, more than was actually mine, I would consider that I had failed as a human being.
        And how on earth could I justify grabbing at your future earnings? In that situation, if I didn’t want you, I wouldn’t want your money either.’
        And I mean it.
        ‘These men are just giving us what they owe us – you take what you can get’. Oh do me a favour – is this equality we’re talking about?
        Because it seems like damned greed to me.
        And it’s nothing to be proud of.
        Here’s Liz Hodgkinson’s article in full. It’s worth a read:
        Written by Claire-Louise Meadows
         


         
        Brad



        "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."


        -- George Orwell

        From: merle lester <bmlester@...>
        To: evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 5:52 PM
        Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Re: A great quote from Thomas Sowell

         




        mark hubey... you have deep seated ignorance within your being...your post here is totally ridiculous and is total nonsense..grow up and get an education..merle


        Don't worry about her. She is either a high-school kid, or belongs to the special class of ignorant servants of the brand-new improved aristocrats of modern capitalist-socialist systems. This class is the one that is at the root of destruction of all civilization. They make corruption possible by elevating ignorance, stupidity, arts & farts, fiction-reading, speculation, sports, acting, pretense as the supreme intellectual activity and the ultimate supreme goal of all humanity.  They are piled up at
        universities peddling what leftists do best, e.g. dissemination of shoddy government goodies , in this case, pretense education, as a freebie from those that allegedly love the poor human masses and are giving them what they crave e.g. intellectual welfare licenses that will allow them to get what they ultimately want, which happens to be money. And they will get it, by getting jobs for which they are unqualified and which are at the root of all corruption. 



        This:

        > yes...selfishness reigns supreme in  many minds...the reptilian brain  is well and truly alive in mark and rafonda...merle <

        and other insults are especially ironic in the context of another of her attempts at rebuttal:

        you are ... intellectual incompetent <

        But those of us who are mere men must endure whatever incivility women wish to heap upon us. And those of us who have the temerity to fail to appreciate the inherent VIRTUE of government seizure of our earnings are not merely mistaken in our political views, but SELFISH.  Then she asks: 

        > is not part of the taxes to help those who are struggling because they have with no fault of their own ...fallen by the wayside?... <

        One wonders if she had in mind those iconic welfare recipients, the Boston Bombers ... that enriching diversity we imported from Chechnya. 

        Since this is a PSYCHOLOGY discussion forum, I would like to call attention to the IMPLICIT THEORY OF MIND one infers from another of her comments. 

        feel left out because you  never went to university huh?..sour grapes RAF and such a mean spirited human being <

        Is this not akin to the kleptocrat attitude that EVERYONE would like to live useless lives in luxury at the expense of working people (after all, who else actually PRODUCES anything?) if only they were CLEVER enough to do so? 

        If we bear in mind that, as an ART TEACHER, she has been living in comfort all her life on money seized from WORKING people, while doing something she enjoys, but which is essentially useless, then I think we can infer that her constant blathering about "caring and sharing" is rationalization. She doesn't want to see herself as a 'parasite' and 'thief of labor' (the marxist terms, not mine, but I have to say that in such a case they have a point) so she 'doubles down' and supports MORE government, and tells herself, and us, that is a sign of her moral virtue: to take OUR money to help others (as well as herself) because she is SO caring. It is pretty clear that the "sharing" part of her formula is her "sharing" money other people earned.

        Actually, far from feeling "sour grapes", I CHERISH my decades of 'right livelihood' and not only because it has brought me to my current, quite acceptable circumstances, but also because I would not want the karma of having lived on money taken from working people.

        RAF















        -- 
        Regards,
        Mark Hubey

        "Learning to think in mathematical terms is an essential part of becoming a liberally educated person. "
        -- Kenyon College Math Department Web Page 






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