Re: [evol-psych] Re: France Free Abortion Bill
- Simple. A government does not have its own money. So, how does a government get the money? Out of thin air? Certainly not.The money are taxes forced on population. Nothing is free and it is people who pay for abortion, whether they want it or not.I am pro abortion. But I also think that abortion should be only subsidized in case of rape or extreme poverty.Anna
I'm still not sure what you're saying, Nancy.
What I understood the article to say is that though people might have to pay
the money up front for an abortion, that they would be reimbursed by
At 03:21 PM 10/28/2012, Nancy wrote:
>No.. What I'm saying is that everyone must pay for them, that theymoney it doesn't take from the
>get paid for, and are not "free."
>The government has nor gets any
>Calling them "free" is propaganda.
> >I'd like to correct this. The bill does not make abortions free. It
> >just makes payment for them collective. They still have to be paid
>Not sure what you're saying, Nancy. Are you saying that
>government has to ultimately pay forthem?
>The selection of a Republican candidate for the presidency of this
globalized and expansive empire is - and I say this seriously - the
greatest competition of idiocy and ignorance that has ever been.
Fidel Castro. January 2012
- The diminutive size and winsome expressions of Toy dogs illustrate the main function of this Group: to embody sheer delight. Don't let their tiny stature fool you, though - - many Toys are tough as nails. If you haven't yet experienced the barking of an angry Chihuahua, for example, well, just wait. Toy dogs will always be popular with city dwellers and people without much living space. They make ideal apartment dogs and terrific lap warmers on nippy nights. (Incidentally, small breeds may be found in every Group, not just the Toy Group. We advise everyone to seriously consider getting a small breed, when appropriate, if for no other reason than to minimize some of the problems inherent in canines such as shedding, creating messes and cost of care. And training aside, it's still easier to control a ten-pound dog than it is one ten times that size.)Brad Beal
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From: Julienne <julienne@...>
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Re: [evil-psych] Re: France Free Abortion Bill
At 09:00 PM 11/1/2012, Anna wrote:
Nonsense. Perhaps breeding for profit is your thing, I cannot say. But it is not how it goes among reputable breeders. The cost of showing, medical care and genetic tests runs well over $1000
Do you test your cats before you breed them and sell? If you did, you would know that the tests alone can run to about $600 per animal. And yes, there are such tests for cats. Both parents have to tested before breeding and then each and every offspring before selling it. Only pet mills do not do such tests.
In toy breeds many litters consist just of one, two or three puppies max.. To get a 1000 dollars for a puppy you need to be a top show breeder. This means make the parents champions before you breed them. The cost of showing a dog to its championship runs at least $5000 ( but only if the dog is of a superb quality and finishes fast, otherwise more).
Reputable breeders I know never make any profit. Whatever they earn goes back to their animals and more. A bag of good food is 60 dollars such as Solid Gold.
You imagine a lot of things Julienne, and this just one of them. Fact is that nowhere unless you hire an illegal alien, you can get a maid to clean your dirty house for 7 dollars. And another fact is that people who earn the lowest wages do not hire maids. Otherwise, what would they eat and how would they pay their rents?
So, try again.....
Anna, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Just a few comments:
"Toy" breeds? An animal isn't a toy - and breeders should not be breeding for distortions.
I also don't believe in "showing" - it is like "showing" humans - beauty shows, slave auctions, etc. It's very hard on animals - and it means there is an insistence on completely vanity "standards". So many breeds have trouble breathing while their little faces and noses are pushed in to meet some human "standard", Others have hip dysplasia and other physical problems because of the artificial "standards".
The type of "breeder" you are talking about sounds like a horror to me - not much difference between that kind of vanity breeding and puppy mills.
You've also seen that the minimum wage is $7.25, and yet you are in denial about that, too.
The selection of a Republican candidate for the presidency of this globalized and expansive empire is - and I say this seriously - the greatest competition of idiocy and ignorance that has ever been. Fidel Castro. January 2012