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[evol-psych] Re: God commends wife beating to Muslims

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  • ED
    Taken from the HOLY BIBLE: NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION (C) 1978 by the New York Bible Society, used by permission of Zondervan Bible Publishers. GENESIS 2:18
    Message 1 of 57 , Dec 31, 2009
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      Taken from the HOLY BIBLE: NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION (C) 1978 by the New
      York Bible Society, used by permission of Zondervan Bible Publishers.

      GENESIS

      2:18  The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I
      will make a helper suitable for him."

      23  The man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she
      shall be called 'woman,' for she was taken out of man."


      3:16  To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in
      childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will
      be for your husband, and he will rule over you."



      ESTHER

      1:20  Then when the king's edict is proclaimed throughout all his vast
      realm, all the women will respect their husbands, from the least to the
      greatest."


      22  He sent dispatches to all parts of the kingdom, to each province in its
      own script and to each people in its own language, proclaiming in each
      people's tongue that every man should be ruler over his own household.


      4  Thus is the man blessed who fears the LORD.

      PROVERBS

       12:4  A wife of noble character is her husband's crown, but a
      disgraceful wife is like decay in his bones.



      19:13  A foolish son is his father's ruin, and a quarrelsome wife is like a
      constant dripping.


      --- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, "yanniru" <yanniru@...> wrote:
      >
      > 1 Cor 11: [7] For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man.
      > Eph.5: [23] For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior.
      >
      > Is that so different from the Qu'ran?

      > --- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, "ED" seacrofter001@ wrote:
      > >
      > > Yes, indeed, the automatic and unconscious intrinsic double-standard
      > > proclivity in humans. --ED


      > > --- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen
      > > <edgarowen@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Donald,
      > > >
      > > > Let's be objective here. That is a very prejudicial English
      > > translation of the original Arabic which is something like 'discipline'.
      > > The idea, which one can find in the Bible and most other cultural
      > > traditions as well, is that the man is head of the family and therefore
      > > it is his responsibility to ensure harmony in the family, by physical
      > > discipline only in extreme cases when the wife is seriously threatening
      > > the well being of the family. This is a time tested system that has
      > > worked and been the norm throughout most of human history up until
      > > recently in western cultures where the government has usurped the
      > > husband's responsibility and authority over his own family.
      > > >
      > > > The goal of this type of unfair reporting is to incite a widespread
      > > clash of civilizations, specifically the west versus Islam.
      > > >
      > > > Edgar


      > > > On Dec 31, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Donald W. wrote:
      > > >
      > > > > --- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, friedrich braun
      > >> >  friedrich_wilhelm_braun@ wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > > QURAN 4:34 - "Men have authority over women because God has made
      > > the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to
      > > maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts
      > > because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear
      > > disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.
      > > Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God
      > > is high, supreme."
      > > > >
      > > > > DWZ:
      > > > > That is unpleasant. Could it possibly be true that God is a male? If
      > > so, perhaps it is not too surprising that He would hold such a
      > > prejudiced and sexist point of view.
      > > > >
      > > > > Maybe this universe needs a change in leadership.
      > > > >
      > > > > Best regards,
      > > > >
      > > > > Donald W. Zimmerman
      > > > > Vancouver, BC, Canada
      > > > > dwzimm@
      > > > > http://mypage.direct.ca/z/zimmerma/index.html

    • yanniru
      Edgar, The supply is actually unlimited as fast breeder reactors make more fuel than they use. They just make more waste as well. But according to all reports,
      Message 57 of 57 , Jan 5, 2010
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        Edgar, The supply is actually unlimited as fast breeder reactors make more fuel than they use. They just make more waste as well. But according to all reports, thorium does not have a waste problem. But that's just what I read.

        --- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
        >
        > Yanniru,
        >
        > The 5 billion years supply of U-238 is just nonsense. If U-235 is 0.7% of all uranium and there is enough of that to last only around 85 years then the supply of U-238 which is 99.3% of all uranium would last only 1000 years at best. I see that figure is quoted in Wiki but it seems like nonsense to me.
        >
        > Edgar
        >
        >
        >
        > On Jan 4, 2010, at 3:12 PM, yanniru wrote:
        >
        > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power
        > >
        > > As opposed to current light water reactors which use uranium-235 (0.7% of all natural uranium), fast breeder reactors use uranium-238 (99.3% of all natural uranium). It has been estimated that there is up to five billion years' worth of uranium-238 for use in these power plants.
        > >
        > > <snip>
        > >
        > > Another alternative would be to use uranium-233 bred from thorium as fission fuel in the thorium fuel cycle. Thorium is about 3.5 times as common as uranium in the Earth's crust, and has different geographic characteristics. This would extend the total practical fissionable resource base by 450%.[64] Unlike the breeding of U-238 into plutonium, fast breeder reactors are not necessary — it can be performed satisfactorily in more conventional plants. India has looked into this technology, as it has abundant thorium reserves but little uranium.
        > >
        > > --- In evolutionary-psychology@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
        > > >
        > > > Michael,
        > > >
        > > > Your post leaves the incorrect impression that fission fuels could provide an unlimited source of energy. That is simply not true. So what if there is plenty of uranium dissolved in the oceans. Are you suggesting we filter the entire ocean to retrieve it? We have to consider economically viable sources, that is concentrated not dilute sources where the energy gained is significantly greater than that expended in accessing and processing the source. Those sources of uranium are much much less than you suggest.
        > > >
        > > > According to the World Nuclear Association the known recoverable resources of Uranium as of 2007 are only about 5.5 million tons. Current usage is about 65,000 tons/yr. That is only 85 years supply at the CURRENT usage levels, and as oil and coal diminish nuclear fuel usage is likely to skyrocket and last considerably less time.
        > > >
        > > > http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf75.html
        > > >
        > > > The world is facing an enormous energy crunch, there are no two ways about it.
        > > >
        > > > Edgar
        > > >
        > > <snip>
        > >
        >
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