95300Re: [evol-psych] Is Free Will an Illusion?
- Sep 10, 2009
IMO there is no such thing as free will.. A creation is oncapable of what its creator endowed it with.. which is reaction to certain stimuli and only particular reactions.
Although all is rigedly fixed, it is fixed in such a way which "appears" to allow for a vague, minute degree or definite type of latitude & this latitude most resolute! Sort of like a dog chained to a pole, it can roam around to some extent however its miniscule domain is specific & thus set! This scenario can but infer that while certain "set" options are possible others are not. It is this fixed "liberty" which many confuse with free will. I must contend that various alternatives & choices "might" be open if only certain ones. I believe there "might" be some latitude in a beings life & that being may be given, say, five choices & it's most "probable" that it's been predetermined which choice he will make but never-the-less he's given a choice, if you choose to call it that. Lets assume for the sake of argument that someone knows you better than you know yourself & that someone rounds up five members of the opposite sex, all relatively good looking & charming however different as day & night. I staunchly believe it can be ascertained beforehand, prior to your ever having layed eyes or ears upon them, which one, above the others, will capture your fancy! This once again is what is confused with free will. Free in a limited fashion as the possibilities are fixed & in certain situations one has a choice between two evils & must choose between the lesser of them but how does one know why or even what makes them choose what they do? They might choose to believe that they reasoned it out but then again why do they then reason the "only" one way that they do? Six of one, half a dozen of another & wolfs howl at the moon?
--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Robert Karl Stonjek <stonjek@...> wrote:
From: Robert Karl Stonjek <stonjek@...>
Subject: Re: [evol-psych] Is Free Will an Illusion?
To: "Evolutionary-Psychology" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 7:25 PM----- Original Message -----From: Edgar OwenSent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:27 AMSubject: Re: [evol-psych] Is Free Will an Illusion?Sonny,No Sonny, the answer is yes. All you have to do is understand that there is no determinism anywhere in the world because of quantum random effects. Thus the actions of any organism cannot be completely determined by external influences. Greatly so sure, but completely so impossible.EdgarRKS:
If this is so then the individual can not predict the outcome of quantum random effect either, so they are not free either. If you can't control (predict) your own behaviour then you are not free.Robert
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