135715[evol-psych] Re: RFT and IQ
- Jun 30, 2012"Those who teach a crucial role for operant conditioning should try to
explain why the role is crucial."
Jim, I gather that for you "crucial" is identical to "causal"?And given
that in your model only classical conditioning, the way you define it
(which differs from how almost all behaviorists define it), is
considered causal, for you that question is answered, if I understand
you right. If I don't, please let me know.
On the other hand, can you allow for the necessity of operant
conditioning in the acquisition of a decent use of language?
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, james kohl <jvkohl@...>
>else have no explanatory power when compared to biological facts? That's
> To further simplify, can we all agree that theories of 'g' or anything
what I've learned about the biology ofÂ adaptive evolution. Those who
teach a crucial role for operant conditioning should try to explain why
the role is crucial. People are struggling to understand unconscious
affects at a time when theorists and practitioners are telling them
"Here, try this!" Or that. Or whatever else they have theorized into
> James V. Kohl
> Medical laboratory scientist
> --- On Sat, 6/30/12, Maarten m.aalberse@... wrote:
> Robert's crucial point can maybe be (over)simplified and generalized
>with what we have",
> The difference between "what we have" (eg genes, IQ) and "what we do
> and how important the latter is when we're talking about real-life
> It is the latter that gives us much more room to manoeuver, too, andthat is the basis of, as DS Wilson for instance likes to highlight,
"evolution is happening right now".
> It's also where IMO operant conditioning has such crucial a role toplay.
>Relational Framing doesn't change what a person has (eg "g") but what he
> And to come back to the study that started this all: maybe training in
can do with what he has. If he can do more or better with what he has,
his scores on an IQ test can be expected to improve. Which does not mean
that his (presumed) "g" improves...
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