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established January 25th, 2001; this group is to serve as a contact between our buyers and general friends of Erinveine Clumbers; for news of dogs, suggested contacts, ideas, and friendship

Erinveine is about breeding to the UK breed standard a dog that is fit, athletic, healthy, and easy to live with (for maintenance and attitude).

The Clumber came to us a heavy set working dog, and the standard still demands this. It appals me to see the breed labelled as a drooling shedding mess that saunters from carpet to rug, and that is his soul acclaim to modern notoriety. This is an indictment on the modern breeder and owner and a massive insult to those who established the breed. Let's rally, come to our senses, and get back on the middle road - avoid the extremes that the show world can demand and reward AND avoid the extremes that the competitive field trial seems to demand and reward.

Ow, and I also abhor the palaver of dog politics, it has no place within the Clumber breed as it is so alien to the true nature of a Clumber, so let's follow our breed's example on this point too.

Happy (and healthy!) Clumbering

Jan Irving


photo is of AuCh Erinveine Exonerate for Abbyford - an Aussie bred dog in his homeland of England DOING what Clumbers were bred to do - and he is an Australian Best in Show winner, and UK show qualified UK Stud Book achiever!

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