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10480Re: [engineeringcivil] minimum depth of backfill to be soil tested

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    Sep 4, 2012
      Thank you Mr. Satish,  but 300mm thick concrete as fill for over excavation is costly so i would rather backfill with suitable soil and backfill and make compaction test.

      From: satish tumne <tumne@...>
      To: "engineeringcivil@yahoogroups.com" <engineeringcivil@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 1:29 PM
      Subject: Re: [engineeringcivil] minimum depth of backfill to be soil tested

       In many cases contract says to fill up this extra excavation by means of concrete and it is at the cost of contractor.
      to get earth filling tested for compression is easy way out
      Satish Tumne

      From: BERNARD D <nard_gd@...>
      To: engineeringcivil@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 1:45 PM
      Subject: Re: [engineeringcivil] minimum depth of backfill to be soil tested

      yes you are right engineer Mahesh. i should respect engineering ethics.and its also safer for my side. thanks a lot for your concerned and support. God bless u more..



      --- On Sun, 9/2/12, Mahesh B.L. <geo.mahesh@...> wrote:

      From: Mahesh B.L. <geo.mahesh@...>
      Subject: Re: [engineeringcivil] minimum depth of backfill to be soil tested
      To: engineeringcivil@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Sunday, September 2, 2012, 4:54 AM


      I understand your problem.  But I presume to obtain the laboratory test results, it may hardly take 2-3 days from the day you provide the sample to a soil laboratory and they start the work immediately on it.

      If the client says it is to be done and if it is in the contract between you and your client, then I think we ought to respect the engineering ethics. 

      Go ahead, all the best.


      On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 6:00 PM, BERNARD D <nard_gd@...> wrote:
      Hello Engr. Mahesh,

      Thanks a lot for your reply. Yes the natural soil beneth the foundation is adobe and its really strong enought to hold the foundation of a small room for 2 AMR (Automatic Meter Reading) Panels connected to a substation.
      I was just convincing the consultant that no need to make laboratory soil test because its only a small room and its costly and time consuming to make soil test. and i assure them that we backfill and ccompact it according to the correct method and specification.


      --- On Sat, 9/1/12, sakthi vel <sweetheart.vel@...> wrote:

      From: sakthi vel <sweetheart.vel@...>
      Subject: Re: [engineeringcivil] minimum depth of backfill to be soil tested
      To: engineeringcivil@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Saturday, September 1, 2012, 9:28 AM

        Back filling
          Generally 200 mm Back fill because core Test mould 200 mm . every layer fill 250 mm lay and compact take core and determine compaction This is the method back filling

      On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Mahesh B.L. <geo.mahesh@...> wrote:

      This should pose no problem.  Perform a laboratory Modified Proctor Compaction Test to obtain the fill's MDD and OMC.  Usually "select fill" is placed below the foundations when required.  Place the fill in the pit excavated for foundation and compact it to 95% of its MDD in layers of 150mm until you reach your required founding level.  After completion, start placing your foundation concrete. 

      If your fill is not select fill, make sure to perform Atterberg limits test to ensure that the PI and limits are within the required limits.

      I hope the subsoil beneath the foundation is strong enough to take the designed loads from the columns!!


      On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 1:31 PM, BERNARD D <nard_gd@...> wrote:
      Dear all,

      What is the minimum depth of back-fill that is required to make soil test.
      i have only 250 to 300 mm back fill and the consultant told me to make a soil test before
      doing the small foundation of a 3.40m x 3,.40m AMR PANEL ROOM for a substation with 4 columns, 1 each corner and the foundation is 2meters by 2m by 300mm depth and the depth of footing is 1.50 meters from natural ground level. the subcontractor excavated too much, 1.80 meters thats why we make 300mm backfill.
      Guys, i need your opinion with this.

      Thank you very much.

      Best regards,


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