25262Re: [energyresources] Amory Lovins tute request
- Nov 17, 2002Sheila Newman wrote:
> Amory Lovins is here on the campaign trail in Australia, audiences with
> government etc.
> I've never read more than the odd cliche from him. Would anyone on the Energy
> Resources forum care to give me a take on his message and model?
> I'm sure it's not all bad (if somewhat saccharine); I gather that it isn't
> well costed regarding real alternative energy outlooks. (I may be wrong.)
> However, is there good to be promoted and what caveats should one add when
> Yours in the hope of being spoon fed again.
> Sheila Newman
I recently ran across a non-numerate critique of Lovins' Natural Capitalism by
the University of
New South Wales professor Ted Trainer. His critique is titled 'Natural Capitalism
Challenged' , and can be found at
Mr. Trainer's general website is www.arts.unsw.edu.au/tsw/01-TSW-Intro.html
Perhaps you and Mr. Trainer can track down Mr. Lovins during his tour there and
foster some kind of debate. (I am not assuming that just because you live in
that you are in proximity to Prof. Trainer)
Mr. Trainer's point of view is Socialist/anti-capitalist, which, in debate,
would be an interesting foil to Mr. Lovins.
Keep in mind Al Bartlett's truism that "For every PhD there is an equal an
That applies to popular personages such as Mr. Lovins (whose bio at the Rocky
Institute does not indicate that he has a conventional PhD, which, of course, is
irrelevent for someone who is highly motivated, intellegent, and knowledgeable)
and the controversial
Thomas Gold (whose ideas can be found in earlier postings in the energyresources
Clarke Co., VA
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