## Ranks and Points

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• By inspecting emplook.exe (3rd party utility), I was able to see the possible ranks. Does anyone know how many points it takes to increase your rank? I m at
Message 1 of 16 , Aug 28 7:36 AM
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By inspecting emplook.exe (3rd party utility), I was able to see the
possible ranks. Does anyone know how many points it takes to
increase your rank? I'm at 645 points as Commander, and need 355 for
the next rank. Also, how can you earn more points per win?

Army:
2nd Lieutenant
1st Lieutenant
Captain
Major
Lieutenant Colonel
Colonel
Major General
Lieutenant General
General
General of the Army

Navy:
Ensign
Lieutenant (j.g.)
Lieutenant
Lieutenant Commander
Commander
Captain

thanks,
David
• I wrote emplook a long time ago, back in 94 or 95 I think. It was my first C project (and really not a very good one, all things considered). Going from rank
Message 2 of 16 , Aug 28 5:42 PM
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I wrote emplook a long time ago, back in '94 or '95 I think. It was my
first C project (and really not a very good one, all things considered).

Going from rank to rank takes an ever-increasing number of points:

0
5
25
100
400
1,000
3,000
8,000
18,000
36,000
62,000

You earn points by playing games--not even necessarily winning, though
that's faster. The formula is as follows:

(5 points for winning OR 2 points for losing in a fight to the
finish OR 1 point for surrender) TIMES
(the average skill of each opponent (3 for Human/Expert, 2 for
Standard, 1 for Easy) PLUS
(one point for every player in the game more than two)

Example #1:

You win a straight-up game against 5 other Human players. Your score
is

5 * ((3*5)/5) + 4) = 35 points

Example #2:

You lose in a game against 1 Human, 1 Expert, 1 Standard, and 2 Easy

2 * (((3 + 3 + 2 + 1 + 1)/5) + 4) = 2 * ((10/5) + 4) = 2 * (2 + 4) =
12 points.

Make sense?

=============================
Steven Woodcock
From the High Mountains of Colorado

----- Original Message -----
From: "dschwener" <dschwener@...>
To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:36 AM
Subject: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

> By inspecting emplook.exe (3rd party utility), I was able to see the
> possible ranks. Does anyone know how many points it takes to
> increase your rank? I'm at 645 points as Commander, and need 355 for
> the next rank. Also, how can you earn more points per win?
>
> Army:
> 2nd Lieutenant
> 1st Lieutenant
> Captain
> Major
> Lieutenant Colonel
> Colonel
> Major General
> Lieutenant General
> General
> General of the Army
>
> Navy:
> Ensign
> Lieutenant (j.g.)
> Lieutenant
> Lieutenant Commander
> Commander
> Captain
>
> thanks,
> David
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
• A while back, I figured out how to gain a lot of points and gain rank very quickly. Just create a 6-player scenario that will guarantee that you will win in
Message 3 of 16 , Aug 29 5:13 PM
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A while back, I figured out how to gain a lot of points and gain rank very
quickly.
Just create a 6-player scenario that will guarantee that you will win in the
first turn (each opponent has only one city, surround that city with your
tanks, something like that). Set up the game to play against 5 computer
players and give yourself every advantage possible. Start the game and take
each city, then save just before you end the turn. End your turn, and each
computer player will of course be defeated, garnering you maximum points for
that game. Reload the game and play the turn over and over. You will earn
points quickly.
It's boring, but if you're that concerned about your rank you probably don't
have a life anyway. Join the club!
-- Emperor MaX Power
• I d thought about re-writing emplook to allow for direct changes of rank and points and the like, but I ve never done it. Maybe I should?
Message 4 of 16 , Aug 29 5:15 PM
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I'd thought about re-writing emplook to allow for direct changes of rank and
points and the like, but I've never done it. Maybe I should?

=============================
Steven Woodcock
From the High Mountains of Colorado

----- Original Message -----
From: <slaughtrsg@...>
To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

> A while back, I figured out how to gain a lot of points and gain rank very
> quickly.
> Just create a 6-player scenario that will guarantee that you will win in
the
> first turn (each opponent has only one city, surround that city with your
> tanks, something like that). Set up the game to play against 5 computer
> players and give yourself every advantage possible. Start the game and
take
> each city, then save just before you end the turn. End your turn, and
each
> computer player will of course be defeated, garnering you maximum points
for
> that game. Reload the game and play the turn over and over. You will
earn
> points quickly.
> It's boring, but if you're that concerned about your rank you probably
don't
> have a life anyway. Join the club!
> -- Emperor MaX Power
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
• I ve played Empire since 1990 and have reinstalled it several times, starting over each time. So I figure that I deserve to be a general by now. Go ahead
Message 5 of 16 , Aug 30 1:33 AM
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I've played Empire since 1990 and have reinstalled it several times, starting over each time. So I figure that I deserve to be a general by now. Go ahead Steven, there must be many discontented junior officers longing for promotion

Anthony Guter
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Woodcock [mailto:swoodcoc@...]
Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 01:16
To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

I'd thought about re-writing emplook to allow for direct changes of rank and
points and the like, but I've never done it.  Maybe I should?

=============================
Steven Woodcock
From the High Mountains of Colorado

----- Original Message -----
From: <slaughtrsg@...>
To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

> A while back, I figured out how to gain a lot of points and gain rank very
> quickly.
> Just create a 6-player scenario that will guarantee that you will win in
the
> first turn (each opponent has only one city, surround that city with your
> tanks, something like that).  Set up the game to play against 5 computer
> players and give yourself every advantage possible.   Start the game and
take
> each city, then save just before you end the turn.  End your turn, and
each
> computer player will of course be defeated, garnering you maximum points
for
> that game.  Reload the game and play the turn over and over.  You will
earn
> points quickly.
> It's boring, but if you're that concerned about your rank you probably
don't
> have a life anyway.  Join the club!
> -- Emperor MaX Power
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

• Why not use EDSecure, it already has a plug that does this. ... have reinstalled it several times, ... ===== Have a nice day, Andrew. Webmaster of The Empire
Message 6 of 16 , Aug 30 2:02 AM
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Why not use EDSecure, it already has a plug that does this.

--- Anthony Guter <aguter@...> wrote: > I've played Empire since 1990 and
have reinstalled it several times,
> starting over each time. So I figure that I deserve to be a general by now.
> Go ahead Steven, there must be many discontented junior officers longing for
> promotion
>
> Anthony Guter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Woodcock [mailto:swoodcoc@...]
> Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 01:16
> To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
>
>
> I'd thought about re-writing emplook to allow for direct changes of rank and
> points and the like, but I've never done it. Maybe I should?
>
>
> =============================
> Steven Woodcock
> From the High Mountains of Colorado
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <slaughtrsg@...>
> To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
>
>
> > A while back, I figured out how to gain a lot of points and gain rank very
> > quickly.
> > Just create a 6-player scenario that will guarantee that you will win in
> the
> > first turn (each opponent has only one city, surround that city with your
> > tanks, something like that). Set up the game to play against 5 computer
> > players and give yourself every advantage possible. Start the game and
> take
> > each city, then save just before you end the turn. End your turn, and
> each
> > computer player will of course be defeated, garnering you maximum points
> for
> > that game. Reload the game and play the turn over and over. You will
> earn
> > points quickly.
> > It's boring, but if you're that concerned about your rank you probably
> don't
> > have a life anyway. Join the club!
> > -- Emperor MaX Power
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=228862.2128520.3581629.2225242/D=egroupweb/S=17050565
>
>
> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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>

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• Thanks for the reply - I ve not heard of ED secure before Anthony ... From: Andrew Peiman [mailto:andrew_peiman@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 10:03
Message 7 of 16 , Aug 30 2:08 AM
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Thanks for the reply - I've not heard of ED secure before
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Peiman [mailto:andrew_peiman@...]
Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 10:03
To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

Why not use EDSecure, it already has a plug that does this.

--- Anthony Guter <aguter@...> wrote: > I've played Empire since 1990 and
have reinstalled it several times,
> starting over each time. So I figure that I deserve to be a general by now.
> Go ahead Steven, there must be many discontented junior officers longing for
> promotion

> Anthony Guter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Woodcock [mailto:swoodcoc@...]
> Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 01:16
> To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
>
>
> I'd thought about re-writing emplook to allow for direct changes of rank and
> points and the like, but I've never done it.  Maybe I should?
>
>
> =============================
> Steven Woodcock
> From the High Mountains of Colorado
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <slaughtrsg@...>
> To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
>
>
> > A while back, I figured out how to gain a lot of points and gain rank very
> > quickly.
> > Just create a 6-player scenario that will guarantee that you will win in
> the
> > first turn (each opponent has only one city, surround that city with your
> > tanks, something like that).  Set up the game to play against 5 computer
> > players and give yourself every advantage possible.   Start the game and
> take
> > each city, then save just before you end the turn.  End your turn, and
> each
> > computer player will of course be defeated, garnering you maximum points
> for
> > that game.  Reload the game and play the turn over and over.  You will
> earn
> > points quickly.
> > It's boring, but if you're that concerned about your rank you probably
> don't
> > have a life anyway.  Join the club!
> > -- Emperor MaX Power
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

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>
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>

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• http://edsecure.armageddonsoftware.com/ to find out more about it ... heard of ED secure before ... ===== Have a nice day, Andrew. Webmaster of The Empire
Message 8 of 16 , Aug 30 2:09 AM
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http://edsecure.armageddonsoftware.com/ to find out more about it

--- Anthony Guter <aguter@...> wrote: > Thanks for the reply - I've not
heard of ED secure before
> Anthony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Peiman [mailto:andrew_peiman@...]
> Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 10:03
> To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
>
>
> Why not use EDSecure, it already has a plug that does this.
>
> --- Anthony Guter <aguter@...> wrote: > I've played Empire since
> 1990 and
> have reinstalled it several times,
> > starting over each time. So I figure that I deserve to be a general by
> now.
> > Go ahead Steven, there must be many discontented junior officers longing
> for
> > promotion
> >
> > Anthony Guter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steven Woodcock [mailto:swoodcoc@...]
> > Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 01:16
> > To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
> >
> >
> > I'd thought about re-writing emplook to allow for direct changes of rank
> and
> > points and the like, but I've never done it. Maybe I should?
> >
> >
> > =============================
> > Steven Woodcock
> > From the High Mountains of Colorado
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <slaughtrsg@...>
> > To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
> >
> >
> > > A while back, I figured out how to gain a lot of points and gain rank
> very
> > > quickly.
> > > Just create a 6-player scenario that will guarantee that you will win in
> > the
> > > first turn (each opponent has only one city, surround that city with
> your
> > > tanks, something like that). Set up the game to play against 5 computer
> > > players and give yourself every advantage possible. Start the game and
> > take
> > > each city, then save just before you end the turn. End your turn, and
> > each
> > > computer player will of course be defeated, garnering you maximum points
> > for
> > > that game. Reload the game and play the turn over and over. You will
> > earn
> > > points quickly.
> > > It's boring, but if you're that concerned about your rank you probably
> > don't
> > > have a life anyway. Join the club!
> > > -- Emperor MaX Power
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>
> > < http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <
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• Heh... I never thought about that. I ve always just had a backup of my edplyr.hst file. Hmmmmm..........where s that code? ============================= Steven
Message 9 of 16 , Aug 30 9:20 AM
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Heh... I never thought about that. I've always just had a backup of my edplyr.hst file.

Hmmmmm..........where's that code?

=============================
Steven Woodcock
From the High Mountains of Colorado
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:33 AM
Subject: RE: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

I've played Empire since 1990 and have reinstalled it several times, starting over each time. So I figure that I deserve to be a general by now. Go ahead Steven, there must be many discontented junior officers longing for promotion

Anthony Guter
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Woodcock [mailto:swoodcoc@...]
Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 01:16
To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

I'd thought about re-writing emplook to allow for direct changes of rank and
points and the like, but I've never done it.  Maybe I should?

=============================
Steven Woodcock
From the High Mountains of Colorado

----- Original Message -----
From: <slaughtrsg@...>
To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

> A while back, I figured out how to gain a lot of points and gain rank very
> quickly.
> Just create a 6-player scenario that will guarantee that you will win in
the
> first turn (each opponent has only one city, surround that city with your
> tanks, something like that).  Set up the game to play against 5 computer
> players and give yourself every advantage possible.   Start the game and
take
> each city, then save just before you end the turn.  End your turn, and
each
> computer player will of course be defeated, garnering you maximum points
for
> that game.  Reload the game and play the turn over and over.  You will
earn
> points quickly.
> It's boring, but if you're that concerned about your rank you probably
don't
> have a life anyway.  Join the club!
> -- Emperor MaX Power
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

• Aha! That s the one Tim wrote. I think (if I remember correctly) he was the gentlemen I sent the file layout to a long time ago. Cool. If you like using
Message 10 of 16 , Aug 30 9:24 AM
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Aha! That's the one Tim wrote. I think (if I remember correctly) he was
the gentlemen I sent the file layout to a long time ago.

Cool. If you like using EDSecure (I don't, but that's just me) that's a
great way to go. It's a good tool.

=============================
Steven Woodcock
From the High Mountains of Colorado

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Peiman" <andrew_peiman@...>
To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:09 AM
Subject: RE: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

> http://edsecure.armageddonsoftware.com/ to find out more about it
>
> --- Anthony Guter <aguter@...> wrote: > Thanks for the
> heard of ED secure before
> > Anthony
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew Peiman [mailto:andrew_peiman@...]
> > Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 10:03
> > To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
> >
> >
> > Why not use EDSecure, it already has a plug that does this.
> >
> > --- Anthony Guter <aguter@...> wrote: > I've played Empire
since
> > 1990 and
> > have reinstalled it several times,
> > > starting over each time. So I figure that I deserve to be a general by
> > now.
> > > Go ahead Steven, there must be many discontented junior officers
longing
> > for
> > > promotion
> > >
> > > Anthony Guter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steven Woodcock [mailto:swoodcoc@...]
> > > Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 01:16
> > > To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd thought about re-writing emplook to allow for direct changes of
rank
> > and
> > > points and the like, but I've never done it. Maybe I should?
> > >
> > >
> > > =============================
> > > Steven Woodcock
> > > From the High Mountains of Colorado
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <slaughtrsg@...>
> > > To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
> > >
> > >
> > > > A while back, I figured out how to gain a lot of points and gain
rank
> > very
> > > > quickly.
> > > > Just create a 6-player scenario that will guarantee that you will
win in
> > > the
> > > > first turn (each opponent has only one city, surround that city with
> > your
> > > > tanks, something like that). Set up the game to play against 5
computer
> > > > players and give yourself every advantage possible. Start the game
and
> > > take
> > > > each city, then save just before you end the turn. End your turn,
and
> > > each
> > > > computer player will of course be defeated, garnering you maximum
points
> > > for
> > > > that game. Reload the game and play the turn over and over. You
will
> > > earn
> > > > points quickly.
> > > > It's boring, but if you're that concerned about your rank you
probably
> > > don't
> > > > have a life anyway. Join the club!
> > > > -- Emperor MaX Power
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>
> > > < http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> >
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• I prefer your suggestion of modifying emplook. EDsecure appears to be an 8mb download. A massive hammer to crack (for me) a very tiny nut. Anthony ... From:
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I prefer your suggestion of modifying emplook. EDsecure appears to be an 8mb download. A massive hammer to crack (for me) a very tiny nut.
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Woodcock [mailto:swoodcoc@...]
Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 17:24
To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

Aha!  That's the one Tim wrote. I think (if I remember correctly) he was
the gentlemen I sent the file layout to a long time ago.

Cool. If you like using EDSecure (I don't, but that's just me) that's a
great way to go. It's a good tool.

=============================
Steven Woodcock
From the High Mountains of Colorado

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Peiman" <andrew_peiman@...>
To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:09 AM
Subject: RE: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

> http://edsecure.armageddonsoftware.com/ to find out more about it
>
>  --- Anthony Guter <aguter@...> wrote: > Thanks for the
> heard of ED secure before
> > Anthony
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew Peiman [mailto:andrew_peiman@...]
> > Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 10:03
> > To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
> >
> >
> > Why not use EDSecure, it already has a plug that does this.
> >
> > --- Anthony Guter <aguter@...> wrote: > I've played Empire
since
> > 1990 and
> > have reinstalled it several times,
> > > starting over each time. So I figure that I deserve to be a general by
> > now.
> > > Go ahead Steven, there must be many discontented junior officers
longing
> > for
> > > promotion
> > >
> > > Anthony Guter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steven Woodcock [mailto:swoodcoc@...]
> > > Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 01:16
> > > To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd thought about re-writing emplook to allow for direct changes of
rank
> > and
> > > points and the like, but I've never done it.  Maybe I should?
> > >
> > >
> > > =============================
> > > Steven Woodcock
> > > From the High Mountains of Colorado
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <slaughtrsg@...>
> > > To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
> > >
> > >
> > > > A while back, I figured out how to gain a lot of points and gain
rank
> > very
> > > > quickly.
> > > > Just create a 6-player scenario that will guarantee that you will
win in
> > > the
> > > > first turn (each opponent has only one city, surround that city with
> > your
> > > > tanks, something like that).  Set up the game to play against 5
computer
> > > > players and give yourself every advantage possible.   Start the game
and
> > > take
> > > > each city, then save just before you end the turn.  End your turn,
and
> > > each
> > > > computer player will of course be defeated, garnering you maximum
points
> > > for
> > > > that game.  Reload the game and play the turn over and over.  You
will
> > > earn
> > > > points quickly.
> > > > It's boring, but if you're that concerned about your rank you
probably
> > > don't
> > > > have a life anyway.  Join the club!
> > > > -- Emperor MaX Power
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• Yes - it does alot more than just that. If you want the file layout - Each record is 32 bytes: PlayerName 1-13 # of wins - 16-17 (16bit integer) # of losses -
Message 12 of 16 , Aug 30 9:53 AM
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Yes - it does alot more than just that. If you want the file layout -

Each record is 32 bytes:
PlayerName 1-13
# of wins - 16-17 (16bit integer)
# of losses - 18-19 (16bit integer)
# of resigns - 20-21 (16bit integer)
points - 22-23 (16bit integer)
branch - 24 (1=Navy, 2=Army)
rank - 25:

Army Ranks:
0 - 2nd Lieut.
1 - 1st Lieut.
2 - Captain
3 - Major
4 - Lieut. Col
5 - Col.
6 - Brig. Gen.
7 - Major gen.
8 - Lieut. Gen
9 - General
10 - General of the Army

Navy Ranks:
0 - Ensign
1 - Lieut (j.g.)
2 - Lieut.
3 - Lieut. Commander
4 - Commander
5 - Captain
• Let me fiddle with it then....might be a good weekend exercise (the orginal was my first (not very good) C project). ============================= Steven
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Let me fiddle with it then....might be a good weekend exercise (the orginal was my first (not very good) C project).

=============================
Steven Woodcock
From the High Mountains of Colorado
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

I prefer your suggestion of modifying emplook. EDsecure appears to be an 8mb download. A massive hammer to crack (for me) a very tiny nut.
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Woodcock [mailto:swoodcoc@...]
Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 17:24
To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

Aha!  That's the one Tim wrote. I think (if I remember correctly) he was
the gentlemen I sent the file layout to a long time ago.

Cool. If you like using EDSecure (I don't, but that's just me) that's a
great way to go. It's a good tool.

=============================
Steven Woodcock
From the High Mountains of Colorado

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Peiman" <andrew_peiman@...>
To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:09 AM
Subject: RE: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

> http://edsecure.armageddonsoftware.com/ to find out more about it
>
>  --- Anthony Guter <aguter@...> wrote: > Thanks for the
> heard of ED secure before
> > Anthony
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew Peiman [mailto:andrew_peiman@...]
> > Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 10:03
> > To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
> >
> >
> > Why not use EDSecure, it already has a plug that does this.
> >
> > --- Anthony Guter <aguter@...> wrote: > I've played Empire
since
> > 1990 and
> > have reinstalled it several times,
> > > starting over each time. So I figure that I deserve to be a general by
> > now.
> > > Go ahead Steven, there must be many discontented junior officers
longing
> > for
> > > promotion
> > >
> > > Anthony Guter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steven Woodcock [mailto:swoodcoc@...]
> > > Sent: Friday 30 August 2002 01:16
> > > To: empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd thought about re-writing emplook to allow for direct changes of
rank
> > and
> > > points and the like, but I've never done it.  Maybe I should?
> > >
> > >
> > > =============================
> > > Steven Woodcock
> > > From the High Mountains of Colorado
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <slaughtrsg@...>
> > > To: <empire-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points
> > >
> > >
> > > > A while back, I figured out how to gain a lot of points and gain
rank
> > very
> > > > quickly.
> > > > Just create a 6-player scenario that will guarantee that you will
win in
> > > the
> > > > first turn (each opponent has only one city, surround that city with
> > your
> > > > tanks, something like that).  Set up the game to play against 5
computer
> > > > players and give yourself every advantage possible.   Start the game
and
> > > take
> > > > each city, then save just before you end the turn.  End your turn,
and
> > > each
> > > > computer player will of course be defeated, garnering you maximum
points
> > > for
> > > > that game.  Reload the game and play the turn over and over.  You
will
> > > earn
> > > > points quickly.
> > > > It's boring, but if you're that concerned about your rank you
probably
> > > don't
> > > > have a life anyway.  Join the club!
> > > > -- Emperor MaX Power
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> >
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• Oh, let the few people who care go to the trouble of actually getting the points. That s what I say. Why take the fun out of it and make it easy? -- Emperor
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Oh, let the few people who care go to the trouble of actually getting the
points. That's what I say. Why take the fun out of it and make it easy?
-- Emperor MaX
• Tim, The DOS version of the player history file (edplyr.hst) has a slight different layout than the Windows version of the player history file. After using
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Tim,

The DOS version of the player history file (edplyr.hst) has a slight different layout than the Windows version of the player history file. After using Steve's edlook utility I did some analysis of the player history file on my own. The player history file is a binary file. You can not use just any text editor to look at the file. I ftp'd both versions to my Unix account and used the octal dump command to look at the contents.

% od -tx1 -c PlayerDOS.hst

% od -tx1 -c PlayerWIN.hst

Here is what I believe to be the file layout.

Each DOS player record is 32 bytes:

player name: 1-13 (13 bytes or 12 bytes + the null if your thinking in C)

letter "j": 14 (1 byte)

# of games: 15-16 (2 bytes)

# of wins: 17-18 (2 bytes)

# of loses: 19-20 (2 bytes)

# of resign: 21-22 (2 bytes)

point total: 23-24 (2 bytes)

branch: 25 (1 byte, 1=navy, 2=army)

rank: 26 (1 byte, range = 0 to 10)

unknown 27-32 (6 bytes, I have not determine what these bytes are for)

Each Window player record is 32 bytes:

player name: 1-12 (12 bytes)

letters "ED": 13-14 (2 bytes)

# of games: 15-16 (2 bytes)

# of wins: 17-18 (2 bytes)

# of loses: 19-20 (2 bytes)

# of resign: 21-22 (2 bytes)

point total: 23-24 (2 bytes)

branch: 25 (1 byte, 1=navy, 2=army)

rank: 26 (1 byte, range = 0 to 10)

unknown 27-32 (6 bytes, I have not determine what these bytes are for)

1 byte = 8 bits, 2 bytes = 16 bits

I wrote my own version of Steve's edlook utility in C on Unix. It just dumps each player and all the data in a big and little endian format. I am currently working a Java based-GUI version, so that it will run on any platform (Win, Mac, Unix, etc). Once you know the player history file layout, it is not hard to write a program to read and/or edit the file. Just remember if you change the file content to keep your numbers in align.

For example:

1. # of games played = wins + loses + resign

2. make sure the point total is within the rank's point range

Bob :-)

Tim Roberts wrote:

Yes - it does alot more than just that. If you want the file layout -

Each record is 32 bytes:
PlayerName 1-13
# of wins - 16-17 (16bit integer)
# of losses - 18-19 (16bit integer)
# of resigns - 20-21 (16bit integer)
points - 22-23 (16bit integer)
branch - 24 (1=Navy, 2=Army)
rank - 25:

Army Ranks:
0 - 2nd Lieut.
1 - 1st Lieut.
2 - Captain
3 - Major
4 - Lieut. Col
5 - Col.
6 - Brig. Gen.
7 - Major gen.
8 - Lieut. Gen
9 - General
10 - General of the Army

Navy Ranks:
0 - Ensign
1 - Lieut (j.g.)
2 - Lieut.
3 - Lieut. Commander
4 - Commander
5 - Captain

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• Cool! Well done Bob! When you get that Java app done let me know. Sounds way better than a new version in C... ============================= Steven Woodcock
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Cool!  Well done Bob!

When you get that Java app done let me know. Sounds way better than a new version in C...

=============================
Steven Woodcock
From the High Mountains of Colorado
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [empire-deluxe] Ranks and Points

Tim,

The DOS version of the player history file (edplyr.hst) has a slight different layout than the Windows version of the player history file. After using Steve's edlook utility I did some analysis of the player history file on my own. The player history file is a binary file. You can not use just any text editor to look at the file. I ftp'd both versions to my Unix account and used the octal dump command to look at the contents.

% od -tx1 -c PlayerDOS.hst

% od -tx1 -c PlayerWIN.hst

Here is what I believe to be the file layout.

Each DOS player record is 32 bytes:

player name: 1-13 (13 bytes or 12 bytes + the null if your thinking in C)

letter "j": 14 (1 byte)

# of games: 15-16 (2 bytes)

# of wins: 17-18 (2 bytes)

# of loses: 19-20 (2 bytes)

# of resign: 21-22 (2 bytes)

point total: 23-24 (2 bytes)

branch: 25 (1 byte, 1=navy, 2=army)

rank: 26 (1 byte, range = 0 to 10)

unknown 27-32 (6 bytes, I have not determine what these bytes are for)

Each Window player record is 32 bytes:

player name: 1-12 (12 bytes)

letters "ED": 13-14 (2 bytes)

# of games: 15-16 (2 bytes)

# of wins: 17-18 (2 bytes)

# of loses: 19-20 (2 bytes)

# of resign: 21-22 (2 bytes)

point total: 23-24 (2 bytes)

branch: 25 (1 byte, 1=navy, 2=army)

rank: 26 (1 byte, range = 0 to 10)

unknown 27-32 (6 bytes, I have not determine what these bytes are for)

1 byte = 8 bits, 2 bytes = 16 bits

I wrote my own version of Steve's edlook utility in C on Unix. It just dumps each player and all the data in a big and little endian format. I am currently working a Java based-GUI version, so that it will run on any platform (Win, Mac, Unix, etc). Once you know the player history file layout, it is not hard to write a program to read and/or edit the file. Just remember if you change the file content to keep your numbers in align.

For example:

1. # of games played = wins + loses + resign

2. make sure the point total is within the rank's point range

Bob :-)

Tim Roberts wrote:

Yes - it does alot more than just that. If you want the file layout -

Each record is 32 bytes:
PlayerName 1-13
# of wins - 16-17 (16bit integer)
# of losses - 18-19 (16bit integer)
# of resigns - 20-21 (16bit integer)
points - 22-23 (16bit integer)
branch - 24 (1=Navy, 2=Army)
rank - 25:

Army Ranks:
0 - 2nd Lieut.
1 - 1st Lieut.
2 - Captain
3 - Major
4 - Lieut. Col
5 - Col.
6 - Brig. Gen.
7 - Major gen.
8 - Lieut. Gen
9 - General
10 - General of the Army

Navy Ranks:
0 - Ensign
1 - Lieut (j.g.)
2 - Lieut.
3 - Lieut. Commander
4 - Commander
5 - Captain

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