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Re: Edmund Ellwood and Mary Bland

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  • Gillian Mc Kenna
    Hi Steve, I have Thomas b1747 & d1838. Here is an extract from my tree: Edmund Elwood-6 (Elizabeth Elwood-5, Thomas Elwood-4, Thomas Elwolde-3, Edmund
    Message 1 of 8 , Oct 3, 2011
      Hi Steve,

      I have Thomas b1747 & d1838. Here is an extract from my tree:

      Edmund Elwood-6 (Elizabeth Elwood-5, Thomas Elwood-4, Thomas Elwolde-3, Edmund Elwold-2, Edwarde Elwald-1). He was born 1716 in Dufton. Baptism on 04 Nov 1716 in Dufton [4].

      He died 1800 in Dufton. Burial on 28 Jan 1800 in Dufton [4]. Occupation was Yeoman.

      Notes for Edmund Elwood:

      General Notes:

      Paid Window Tax 1777 Dufton.

      Living Dufton with wife Mary 1787.

      Mary Bland. She was born 1719 in Kirkby Stephen. She died 1794 in Dufton. Burial on 05 Dec 1794 in Dufton [4].

      Edmund Elwood and Mary Bland. They were married on 01 Jun 1746 in Dufton. They had 2 children.

      i. Thomas Ellwood. He was born 1747 in Dufton. Baptism on 22 Oct 1747 in Dufton. He married Mary Loy. They were married on 26 May 1771 in Dufton. Occupation 1783 (Husbandman). He died on 14 Sep 1838 in Dufton.

      ii. John Ellwood. He was born 1750 in Dufton. Baptism on 27 Jun 1750 in Dufton. He died 1773 in Dufton. Burial on 26 Aug 1773 in Dufton [13].


      Thomas also married Mary Ellwood & Elizabeth Willon.

      His death record from familysearch:

      name: Thomas Ellwood
      gender: Male
      burial date: 14 Sep 1838
      burial place: Dufton, Westmorland, England
      age: 91
      birth date: 1747
      indexing project (batch) number: B05538-3
      system origin: England-EASy
      source film number: 1471872

      I don't know who the Thomas d1747 is.

      Will keep digging.

      Regards,

      Gillian


      --- In ellwood@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@...> wrote:
      >
      > We have this family with conflicting information:
      >
      > Family Group Report
      > For: Edmund Ellwood (ID=15944)
      > Date Prepared: 3 Oct 2011
      >
      > NAME: ELLWOOD, Edmund, Born ??? 1716 in Dufton, WES, ENG, Died
      > Jan 1800 in Dufton, WES, ENG at age 84; FATHER: ELLWOOD,
      > Thomas, Born ??? 1670, Died ???; MOTHER: ELLWOOD, Elizabeth,
      > Born May 1680, Died ???
      >
      > MARRIED 1 Jun 1746 in Dufton, WES, ENG, to BLAND, Mary, Born ???
      > 1724, Died ??? 1794 in Dufton, WES, ENG at age 70
      >
      > CHILDREN:
      > 1. M ELLWOOD, Thomas, born ??? 1747 in Dufton, WES, ENG, died
      > Mar 1749 in Dufton, WES, ENG
      > 2. M ELLWOOD, John, born Jun 1750 in Dufton, WES, ENG, died
      > Oct 1750 in Dufton, WES, ENG
      >
      > Some show the child Thomas ELLWWOD born about 1747 and dying in infancy,
      > others show him as marrying Elizabeth WILLON and having several children.
      >
      > If the latter is the case, which Thomas died in March 1749?
      >
      >
      > --
      > Keep well,
      > Steve Hayes
      > Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com
      > http://hayesfam.posterous.com/
      > E-mail: shayes@...
      >
    • Steve Hayes
      ... OK, it s the children I am most concerned about -- according to some records I have seen, both died in infancy. If one can show that the ones who died were
      Message 2 of 8 , Oct 3, 2011
        On 3 Oct 2011 at 19:31, Gillian Mc Kenna wrote:

        > Edmund Elwood and Mary Bland. They were married on 01 Jun 1746 in Dufton. They
        > had 2 children.
        >
        > i. Thomas Ellwood. He was born 1747 in Dufton. Baptism on 22 Oct 1747 in
        > Dufton. He married Mary Loy. They were married on 26 May 1771 in Dufton.
        > Occupation 1783 (Husbandman). He died on 14 Sep 1838 in Dufton.
        >
        > ii. John Ellwood. He was born 1750 in Dufton. Baptism on 27 Jun 1750 in
        > Dufton. He died 1773 in Dufton. Burial on 26 Aug 1773 in Dufton [13].

        OK, it's the children I am most concerned about -- according to some records
        I have seen, both died in infancy.

        If one can show that the ones who died were another Thomas and John (perhaps
        by age at death) then it's OK, and my query is resolved.


        --
        Steve Hayes
        E-mail: shayes@...
        Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr)
        Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
        Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727
        Fax: 086-548-2525
      • Gillian Mc Kenna
        Hi, Here is John s burial from familysearch: name: John Ellwood gender: Male burial date: 26 Aug 1773 burial place: Dufton, Westmorland, England age: 23 birth
        Message 3 of 8 , Oct 4, 2011
          Hi,

          Here is John's burial from familysearch:

          name: John Ellwood
          gender: Male
          burial date: 26 Aug 1773
          burial place: Dufton, Westmorland, England
          age: 23
          birth date: 1750
          father's name: Edmund Ellwood
          indexing project (batch) number: B05538-3
          system origin: England-EASy
          source film number: 1471872

          It states he was the son of Edmund & was born 1750.

          In 1787 Edmund & Mary and son Thomas & Elizabeth appear to be living next door to each other in Dufton:

          Edmd ELLWOOD Head Yeoman M
          Mary ELLWOOD Wife F
          Richd RELPH Servant M
          Margt BROWN Dairymaid F
          ____________
          Thos ELLWOOD Head Farmer M
          Eliz ELLWOOD Wife F
          Mary ELLWOOD Daughter F
          Eliz ELLWOOD Daughter F
          Jno TUER Miner M

          Thomas' will was proved in 1839 Dufton. I do not have a copy of this will.

          Regards,

          Gillian



          --- In ellwood@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@...> wrote:
          >
          > On 3 Oct 2011 at 19:31, Gillian Mc Kenna wrote:
          >
          > > Edmund Elwood and Mary Bland. They were married on 01 Jun 1746 in Dufton. They
          > > had 2 children.
          > >
          > > i. Thomas Ellwood. He was born 1747 in Dufton. Baptism on 22 Oct 1747 in
          > > Dufton. He married Mary Loy. They were married on 26 May 1771 in Dufton.
          > > Occupation 1783 (Husbandman). He died on 14 Sep 1838 in Dufton.
          > >
          > > ii. John Ellwood. He was born 1750 in Dufton. Baptism on 27 Jun 1750 in
          > > Dufton. He died 1773 in Dufton. Burial on 26 Aug 1773 in Dufton [13].
          >
          > OK, it's the children I am most concerned about -- according to some records
          > I have seen, both died in infancy.
          >
          > If one can show that the ones who died were another Thomas and John (perhaps
          > by age at death) then it's OK, and my query is resolved.
          >
          >
          > --
          > Steve Hayes
          > E-mail: shayes@...
          > Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr)
          > Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
          > Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727
          > Fax: 086-548-2525
          >
        • Gillian Mc Kenna
          Hi, Also for Thomas b1747, according to his marriage record to Mary Loy (1771) he was 24 yrs old. That means be was born 1747. Gillian
          Message 4 of 8 , Oct 4, 2011
            Hi,

            Also for Thomas b1747, according to his marriage record to Mary Loy (1771) he was 24 yrs old. That means be was born 1747.

            Gillian

            --- In ellwood@yahoogroups.com, "Gillian Mc Kenna" <gillianmckenna@...> wrote:
            >
            > Hi,
            >
            > Here is John's burial from familysearch:
            >
            > name: John Ellwood
            > gender: Male
            > burial date: 26 Aug 1773
            > burial place: Dufton, Westmorland, England
            > age: 23
            > birth date: 1750
            > father's name: Edmund Ellwood
            > indexing project (batch) number: B05538-3
            > system origin: England-EASy
            > source film number: 1471872
            >
            > It states he was the son of Edmund & was born 1750.
            >
            > In 1787 Edmund & Mary and son Thomas & Elizabeth appear to be living next door to each other in Dufton:
            >
            > Edmd ELLWOOD Head Yeoman M
            > Mary ELLWOOD Wife F
            > Richd RELPH Servant M
            > Margt BROWN Dairymaid F
            > ____________
            > Thos ELLWOOD Head Farmer M
            > Eliz ELLWOOD Wife F
            > Mary ELLWOOD Daughter F
            > Eliz ELLWOOD Daughter F
            > Jno TUER Miner M
            >
            > Thomas' will was proved in 1839 Dufton. I do not have a copy of this will.
            >
            > Regards,
            >
            > Gillian
            >
            >
            >
            > --- In ellwood@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@> wrote:
            > >
            > > On 3 Oct 2011 at 19:31, Gillian Mc Kenna wrote:
            > >
            > > > Edmund Elwood and Mary Bland. They were married on 01 Jun 1746 in Dufton. They
            > > > had 2 children.
            > > >
            > > > i. Thomas Ellwood. He was born 1747 in Dufton. Baptism on 22 Oct 1747 in
            > > > Dufton. He married Mary Loy. They were married on 26 May 1771 in Dufton.
            > > > Occupation 1783 (Husbandman). He died on 14 Sep 1838 in Dufton.
            > > >
            > > > ii. John Ellwood. He was born 1750 in Dufton. Baptism on 27 Jun 1750 in
            > > > Dufton. He died 1773 in Dufton. Burial on 26 Aug 1773 in Dufton [13].
            > >
            > > OK, it's the children I am most concerned about -- according to some records
            > > I have seen, both died in infancy.
            > >
            > > If one can show that the ones who died were another Thomas and John (perhaps
            > > by age at death) then it's OK, and my query is resolved.
            > >
            > >
            > > --
            > > Steve Hayes
            > > E-mail: shayes@
            > > Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr)
            > > Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
            > > Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727
            > > Fax: 086-548-2525
            > >
            >
          • Gillian Mc Kenna
            Hi All, A researcher friend of mine has checked the parish records for Dufton and the entry for Thomas Ellwood d1749 is: 1749 Mar 15 Thos Ellwood, an old man.
            Message 5 of 8 , Oct 27, 2011
              Hi All,

              A researcher friend of mine has checked the parish records for Dufton and the entry for Thomas Ellwood d1749 is:

              1749
              Mar 15 Thos Ellwood, an old man.

              This would confirm that the son Thomas b1747 of Edmund & Mary was not buried 15/03/1749.

              Regards,

              Gillian


              --- In ellwood@yahoogroups.com, "Gillian Mc Kenna" <gillianmckenna@...> wrote:
              >
              > Hi,
              >
              > Also for Thomas b1747, according to his marriage record to Mary Loy (1771) he was 24 yrs old. That means be was born 1747.
              >
              > Gillian
              >
              > --- In ellwood@yahoogroups.com, "Gillian Mc Kenna" <gillianmckenna@> wrote:
              > >
              > > Hi,
              > >
              > > Here is John's burial from familysearch:
              > >
              > > name: John Ellwood
              > > gender: Male
              > > burial date: 26 Aug 1773
              > > burial place: Dufton, Westmorland, England
              > > age: 23
              > > birth date: 1750
              > > father's name: Edmund Ellwood
              > > indexing project (batch) number: B05538-3
              > > system origin: England-EASy
              > > source film number: 1471872
              > >
              > > It states he was the son of Edmund & was born 1750.
              > >
              > > In 1787 Edmund & Mary and son Thomas & Elizabeth appear to be living next door to each other in Dufton:
              > >
              > > Edmd ELLWOOD Head Yeoman M
              > > Mary ELLWOOD Wife F
              > > Richd RELPH Servant M
              > > Margt BROWN Dairymaid F
              > > ____________
              > > Thos ELLWOOD Head Farmer M
              > > Eliz ELLWOOD Wife F
              > > Mary ELLWOOD Daughter F
              > > Eliz ELLWOOD Daughter F
              > > Jno TUER Miner M
              > >
              > > Thomas' will was proved in 1839 Dufton. I do not have a copy of this will.
              > >
              > > Regards,
              > >
              > > Gillian
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > --- In ellwood@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@> wrote:
              > > >
              > > > On 3 Oct 2011 at 19:31, Gillian Mc Kenna wrote:
              > > >
              > > > > Edmund Elwood and Mary Bland. They were married on 01 Jun 1746 in Dufton. They
              > > > > had 2 children.
              > > > >
              > > > > i. Thomas Ellwood. He was born 1747 in Dufton. Baptism on 22 Oct 1747 in
              > > > > Dufton. He married Mary Loy. They were married on 26 May 1771 in Dufton.
              > > > > Occupation 1783 (Husbandman). He died on 14 Sep 1838 in Dufton.
              > > > >
              > > > > ii. John Ellwood. He was born 1750 in Dufton. Baptism on 27 Jun 1750 in
              > > > > Dufton. He died 1773 in Dufton. Burial on 26 Aug 1773 in Dufton [13].
              > > >
              > > > OK, it's the children I am most concerned about -- according to some records
              > > > I have seen, both died in infancy.
              > > >
              > > > If one can show that the ones who died were another Thomas and John (perhaps
              > > > by age at death) then it's OK, and my query is resolved.
              > > >
              > > >
              > > > --
              > > > Steve Hayes
              > > > E-mail: shayes@
              > > > Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr)
              > > > Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
              > > > Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727
              > > > Fax: 086-548-2525
              > > >
              > >
              >
            • Steve Hayes
              ... Little by little, the evidence adds up! -- Steve Hayes E-mail: shayes@dunelm.org.uk Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr) Blog:
              Message 6 of 8 , Oct 27, 2011
                On 27 Oct 2011 at 15:37, Gillian Mc Kenna wrote:

                > A researcher friend of mine has checked the parish records for Dufton and the
                > entry for Thomas Ellwood d1749 is:
                >
                > 1749
                > Mar 15 Thos Ellwood, an old man.
                >
                > This would confirm that the son Thomas b1747 of Edmund & Mary was not buried
                > 15/03/1749.

                Little by little, the evidence adds up!


                --
                Steve Hayes
                E-mail: shayes@...
                Web: http://hayesstw.tumblr.com/ (follow me on Tumblr)
                Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
                Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727
                Fax: 086-548-2525
              • Gillian Mc Kenna
                Hi All, While Googling for the other Edmund, I came across a family tree (David Gregory) that has the father of Edmund b1716 Dufton as Thomas bap 6 Apr 1690
                Message 7 of 8 , Jan 3, 2012
                  Hi All,

                  While Googling for the other Edmund, I came across a family tree (David Gregory) that has the father of Edmund b1716 Dufton as Thomas bap 6 Apr 1690 Dufton, son of Richard & Joanne.

                  Does any one else have this Richard & Joanne in their tree?

                  Regards,

                  Gillian




                  --- In ellwood@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Hayes" <hayesstw@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > We have this family with conflicting information:
                  >
                  > Family Group Report
                  > For: Edmund Ellwood (ID=15944)
                  > Date Prepared: 3 Oct 2011
                  >
                  > NAME: ELLWOOD, Edmund, Born ??? 1716 in Dufton, WES, ENG, Died
                  > Jan 1800 in Dufton, WES, ENG at age 84; FATHER: ELLWOOD,
                  > Thomas, Born ??? 1670, Died ???; MOTHER: ELLWOOD, Elizabeth,
                  > Born May 1680, Died ???
                  >
                  > MARRIED 1 Jun 1746 in Dufton, WES, ENG, to BLAND, Mary, Born ???
                  > 1724, Died ??? 1794 in Dufton, WES, ENG at age 70
                  >
                  > CHILDREN:
                  > 1. M ELLWOOD, Thomas, born ??? 1747 in Dufton, WES, ENG, died
                  > Mar 1749 in Dufton, WES, ENG
                  > 2. M ELLWOOD, John, born Jun 1750 in Dufton, WES, ENG, died
                  > Oct 1750 in Dufton, WES, ENG
                  >
                  > Some show the child Thomas ELLWWOD born about 1747 and dying in infancy,
                  > others show him as marrying Elizabeth WILLON and having several children.
                  >
                  > If the latter is the case, which Thomas died in March 1749?
                  >
                  >
                  > --
                  > Keep well,
                  > Steve Hayes
                  > Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com
                  > http://hayesfam.posterous.com/
                  > E-mail: shayes@...
                  >
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