336Re: More tengwar in PE19 (in OP2)
- Jan 2, 2012--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, j_mach_wust@... wrote:
>than those already highlighted in #329, all from OP2.
> On 2012-01-01, at 17:54, Ugo wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > I haven't found any mention here, but there are more tengwar in PE19
>question: How should we count these? They are not tengwar autographs,
> Thanks for pointing that out! Indeed, this raises an intricate
seeing as they are only reproduced in Tengwar Annatar characters. Still,
they come directly from Tolkien's manuscript.
Indeed that's a good question; they aren't only coming from a Tolkien's
manuscript, but they seem to be really part of it: the wording needs the
presence of those tengwar. The question is why the editor chose to use a
font instead of using a scan version of those tengwar; a possibile
answer is "for the sake of clarity as it's not possibile to misread them
in the original manuscript and as the contest it's focused on phonetic
development rather than script, the whole text gains clarity", however
in p. 41-43 we find both the font and fac similes. Peraphs we should ask
Mr. Gilson the reason of its choices both in OP2 and OP1 (to be sure of
their autorship), but they really seem to be Tolkien's tengwar worth of
consideration as a unified DTS (25 tengwar) as they're all from the same
document (OP2) and they all have the same "nature", peraphs with a note
explaining that they're not fac similes.
> In any case, there are some more tengwar like these in PE19, at leaston page 41. When I enumerated the tengwar from page 41 in #328, I only
counted the autographed tengwar, and not the Annatar tengwar.
As I've said above, in my opinion they should be counted, after a check
with Christopher Gilson, maybe highlighting the difference: 21+7
> > p.88:Parmaquesta)
> > 3 tengwar
> > (a) hwesta sindarinwa and halla for *hw* (intial and medial in
> > (b) formen with a bar below apparently for *ff*Five then (halla, hwesta sindarinwa, halla+hwesta sindarinwa, formen).
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