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Re: [elfscript] Christiana Mary

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  • Melroch 'Aestan
    ... Anyway Tolkien *adapted* Mary as _Mára_ good . -- /BP 8^) -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch at melroch dot se
    Message 1 of 3 , Apr 8, 2005
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      Jerry Aurand(Fillan) skrev:
      > Christiana Mary based her translation on a meaning
      > 'friend' for Mary, instead of the usual 'bitter'. One
      > work of scholarship I've seen (many years ago) rejected
      > both for a derivation from a root meaning 'height'. The
      > suggestion was was the name meant 'a woman from the
      > highlands/hills'. It may be cognate to the 'mar-' of
      > 'marantha' (my lord come!)--a lord being a 'high' or
      > noble man.

      Anyway Tolkien *adapted* Mary as _Mára_ "good".

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      /BP 8^)>
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      Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch at melroch dot se
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    • Patrick Wynne
      ... No, he did not. Tolkien phonetically adapted _Mary_ into Quenya as _María_ in all four versions of the _Aia María_ (VT43:26-28), and as _Maria_ (with
      Message 2 of 3 , Apr 8, 2005
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        On Apr 8, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Melroch 'Aestan wrote:

        > Anyway Tolkien *adapted* Mary as _Mára_ "good".

        No, he did not. Tolkien phonetically adapted _Mary_ into
        Quenya as _María_ in all four versions of the _Aia María_
        (VT43:26-28), and as _Maria_ (with short _i_) in the
        Litany of Loreto (VT44:12).

        -- Patrick H. Wynne
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