Re: [elfscript] Re: Unicode encoding of Tengwar
- John Cowan wrote:
> Måns Björkman scripsit:Debatable. According to _Quendi and Eldar_, "Their own language was the
>>(and the word "Sindarin" is Quenya).
> Ah. In that case, what is the Sindarin word for "Sindarin"?
only one that they ever heard; and they needed no word to distinguish
it, nor to distinguish themselves." Certainly some designation must have
been created after the arrival of the Noldor, but we do not know what it
was. It has been suggested that the Sindar referred to their language
simply as _Edhellen_, "Elvish".
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teithant John Cowan
> Ah. In that case, what is the Sindarin word for "Sindarin"
* thindren :))))
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> An alternative (fourth) approach encodes the tehtar twice: a set ofThis won't work. If the tehtar are defined as combining marks, they MUST
> "preceding tehtar", and a set of "following tehtar". Equivalently,
> the vowels can be thought of as being in three sets: Quenya-style,
> Sindarind-style and Beleriand-style (the correspondance between these
> sets should be reflected in the encoding).
> Here are some of Michael Everson's examples encoded using this
> +e = following tehta above
> _e = following tehta below
> e+ = preceding tehta above
> e = full vowel
> language/style word encoding
> Quenya nelde n +e ld +e
> Quenya neltildi n +e l t +i ld +i
> Sindarin neled n e+ l e+ d
> Sindarin nelthil n e+ l th i+ l
> Beleriand neled n e l e d
> Beleriand nelthil n e l th i l
> English/Quenya animal ^ +a n +i m +a l
> English/Sindarin animal a+ n i+ m a+ l
> English/Beleriand animal a n i m a l
> Old English mihton m i+ h ZWJ t o+ n
> Old English <thorn><ae>re th ae+ r _e
> [A much nicer .gif illustration of this is at
follow a base character. Thus
nld = neled i.e. ne-le-d; writing
nld = nlede i.e. n-le-de
Though of course you can read (pronounce) this any way you like; Unicode
does not allow a combining character to attach itself to letters that follo=
Yes, this is a bit of a problem for input and searching given most people's=
expectations. Yes, things like thære are a problem.