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  • Gregson Vaux
    Matt, Thanks for the scan; it is much appreciated and I will be waiting for the transcription. Gregson ... scan of the King s Letter Third Version. It is a
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      Thanks for the scan; it is much appreciated and I will be waiting
      for the transcription.


      --- In elfscript@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Wala <mwala@s...> wrote:
      > I'm not sure who the below was talking to, but I have uploaded a
      scan of the King's Letter Third Version. It is a 400-odd KB picture
      titled scan0007.jpg. I will also be uploading a close transcript of
      > j_mach_wust <machhezan@g...> wrote:
      > --- In elfscript@yahoogroups.com, "Gregson Vaux" <gvaux@m...>
      > >
      > > I have been given the advice to follow JRRT's original texts but
      > > have one small problem. I only have the Lord of The Rings and
      > > Hobbit. I don't know where to find the King's Letter and I don't
      > > know what DTS followed by various numbers means. The Tengwar
      > > Textbook talks about three English modes namely JRRT's CJRT's
      > > the Common mode which is a mixture of the two.
      > >
      > > I'll bet that JRRT's various tengwar samples are spead over a
      > > of books and never clearly stated as simple rules. The nice
      > > about the Tengwar Textbook is that it is all in one place and I
      > > don't have to spend $250 to buy a stack of books.
      > I was just in your place some years ago: They're all talking about
      > these samples but how the heck am I going to get any of them!
      > it turned out that they weren't either that hard to get or that
      > expensive to pay. But they really turned out to be very helpful.
      So I
      > can only advise you that you try to get them.
      > > So, how many English modes are there? Is it possible that JRRT
      > > just not being consistent between texts and this is treated as
      > > separate modes? I can understand that one mode would use tehtar
      > > another mode would use tenwar for vowels but beyond this, maybe
      > > did a lot of experimenting.
      > So he did. There's a good classification of the tengwar modes at
      > Björkman's site Amanye Tenceli:
      > http://w1.860.comhem.se/~u86023928/at/teng_modes.htm
      > There's also a detailed overview on the different English modes at
      > Ronald Kyrmse site (the "Table of Modes" at the bottom):
      > http://www.geocities.com/otsoandor/FTMME.htm
      > > What I am trying to do is follow some
      > > simple rules so that when I write with tengwar, other people
      > > understand what I have written.
      > The easiest way to write English with tengwar in a way consistent
      > Tolkien's example is following the examples of DTS 10 and 13, as
      > described to you.
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      > j. 'mach' wust
      > http://machhezan.tripod.com
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