Re: Help me please
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "laurifindil" <ejk@f...> wrote:
> Don't forget that this is NOT Tolkien Elvish at all but a Mish-MashWhat Edouard said.
> Language which only "looks" like Tolkien Con Lang. It's no better
> than any other kind of Gibberish.
Since the subject header of the original post was "Help me
please", I'll offer some advice -- kids, I realize that tengwar
tattoos of "elvish" phrases are all the rage right now, but
getting a phrase in a language that you yourself don't understand
_permanently embossed on your body_ is a really, really BAD
IDEA. And when the language in question is one that NOBODY
really fully understands -- both Quenya and Sindarin are only
poorly and partially attested languages, and moreover their
grammar and vocabulary changed constantly during the 60-
or-so years Tolkien worked on them -- the chances for error
become even more high.
-- Patrick H. Wynne
> On Sep 20, 2004, at 2:01 AM, calwen76 wrote:get the English sentence (All we have to decide is what to do with the time
> > My suggestion to Brendon (and Pat and Carl would probably agree) is to
given to us) transcribed in Tengwar and get this tattooed.
That is what I said too, if he needs a text that is ABSOLUTELY certain. In
this field, we rarely deal with absolutes (whether when analyzing Tolkien's
own material, or when composing in Eldarin ourselves). After all, the
subject matter itself constantly changed and mutated inside Tolkien's head.
For that reason it is rarely possible to compose substantial texts in
Elvish that can be definitely demonstrated to be entirely in agreement with
Tolkien's ideas (the ideas themselves changing so often), but often it
would be equally different to prove that the more serious attempts to use
Tolkien's words and grammar definitely include errors. Rather it is simply
one person's gut feeling vs. that of another.