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Question about Quenya mode Tengwar

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  • Yehuda Ronen
    When to use: tengwa 17 against tengwa 19 tengwa 22 against tengwa 24 tengwa 29 against tengwa 30 tengwa 31 against tengwa 32 tengwa 33 against _halla_ (has no
    Message 1 of 2 , Oct 17, 2001
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      When to use:
      tengwa 17 against tengwa 19
      tengwa 22 against tengwa 24
      tengwa 29 against tengwa 30
      tengwa 31 against tengwa 32
      tengwa 33 against _halla_ (has no number)
      ?

      I talk about Quenya mode only.


      Thanks, Yehuda Ronen
    • Måns Björkman
      ... Originally 19 was used for the sound _ng_ as in _king_, 17 for normal _n_. In the Third Age, when _ng_ had mutated into _n_, 17 would probably serve both
      Message 2 of 2 , Oct 17, 2001
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        Yehuda Ronen wrote:

        > When to use:
        > tengwa 17 against tengwa 19


        Originally 19 was used for the sound _ng_ as in _king_, 17 for normal
        _n_. In the Third Age, when _ng_ had mutated into _n_, 17 would probably
        serve both for original _n_ and original _ng_.

        > tengwa 22 against tengwa 24


        N:o 24 originally represtented _w_ and could still be used for this
        sound in the Third Age, while 22 represented original _v_.


        > tengwa 29 against tengwa 30
        > tengwa 31 against tengwa 32


        These were simply variants of each other, but 30/32 were often used when
        a tehta was placed above the tengwa.


        > tengwa 33 against _halla_ (has no number)


        Tengwa 33 was the standard sign for breath _h_. <Halla> was "used before
        a consonant to indicate that it was unvoiced and breathed; voiceless _r_
        and _l_ were ususally so expressed and are transcribed _hr_, _hl_." (AppE)

        Yours,
        Måns

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