Re: [elfscript] Tengwar Parmaite font now available
- Michael Everson a écrit:
>Thank you very much!
> At 14:24 +0100 2001-03-02, Edward J. Kloczko wrote:
> > > > Anyone has a copy of the "Quettar" with the numerals?
> > >
> > > Unfortunately I don't have that old issue of Quettar, but a small
> > > sample of Quenya numerals (an extract of Quettar, actually) can be
> > > downloaded staring from http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/misc/local/TolkLang/ and
> >> searching. It's a PostScript document.
> >I was not able to interpret this document (even with Photoshop...).
> I've translated it to PDF. See
Vive PDF! ;-)
Well, the only thing left now is someone with the Quettar... ;-)
- Mans Bjorkman a écrit:
>I don't have my books ta hand... I still think it is a mode...
> "Edward J. Kloczko" wrote:
> > Mans Bjorkman a écrit:
> > >
> > <snip>
> > > > The double curls (for ú, ó) are missing.
> > >
> > > As I understand, the "ligature" double curls only occur in the
> > > ring-inscription style of writing. Doubled curls may be produced by
> > > simply writing two consecutive curls.
> > The published corpus of tengwar inscription is _very_ small compared to what
> > Tolkien have done.
> That is a reasonable speculation, yes.
> > The double curls could have been "usual" in the "Eregion Mode" (Sauron adapted
> > it to BS according to "Gandalf").
> I assume you are referring to Gandalf's quoting Isildur's description of
> the Ring during the Council of Elrond (so it's actually "according to
> 'Isildur'")? The ring-inscription is described thus: "It is fashioned in
> an elven-script of Eregion, for they have no letters in Mordor for such
> subtle work; but the language is unknown to me [i.e. Isildur]."
> I don't think this refers to the *mode* used on the Ring, but rather to
> the graphic style of the letters, or perhaps simply the writing system
> itself. Double curls were probably common in many modes outside Eregion
> (where, judging by the Moria Gate, the mode of Beleriand was the most
> popular for Sindarin). In an alternative Tengwar inscription of the
> beginning of _Namárie_, *all* vowels except _a_ are written with doubled
> tehtar whenever possible. I maintain, though, that the *ligature* curls
> were specific for the writing style used in the ring-inscription.
Come back to that later.
It reminds me that Frodo was (if I remember right) unable to _read_ the
Ring-inscription, this would point towards the theory that my reconstruced
"Northern Mode" was in fact the only one used in the Shire at that time.
- At 18:33 +0100 2001-03-02, Edward J. Kloczko wrote:
>It reminds me that Frodo was (if I remember right) unable to _read_ the"I cannot read the fiery letters" could simply mean that he didn't
>Ring-inscription, this would point towards the theory that my reconstruced
>"Northern Mode" was in fact the only one used in the Shire at that time.
understand the Black Speech.
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- Måns Björkman wrote:
> Tengwar Parmaite font now availableI installed it, and I can certainly recommend it. I find it very clear and
legible. While no font can ever quite match the calligraphy that only a
living hand can achieve, the Parmaite font looks nice and tidy. If I were
to print a book in Tengwar, this font would probably be the one I would
use, based on the alternatives I have seen. (Not that most of these
alternatives were particularly bad, either!)
Visiting Måns' site, I also noticed that the problems I have earlier
experienced (my browser making an almost completely illegible mess of
everything) were largely gone. I am glad, for this is an admirable site;
Måns has done for the scripts what I have tried to do for the languages.
- Helge Fauskanger
>Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 10:59:26 +0100try here:
>From: "Edward J. Kloczko" <ejk@...>
>Anyone has a copy of the "Quettar" with the numerals?
It contains PDFs of both the Quettar (1987) and the
Beyond Bree (1984) articles on numerals.
Daniel Steven Smith / fontmaster@...
Fantasy Fonts for Windows / <><
>From: Dan Smith <dansmith@...>**this address doesn't work.
>Subject: [elfscript] Re: Tengwar Parmaite font now available
>Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:51:48 -0500
> >Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 10:59:26 +0100
> >From: "Edward J. Kloczko" <ejk@...>
> >Anyone has a copy of the "Quettar" with the numerals?
>It contains PDFs of both the Quettar (1987) and the** Lisa Star
>Beyond Bree (1984) articles on numerals.
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>>From: Dan Smith <dansmith@...>I just tried it and it worked for me.
>>Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:51:48 -0500
>>It contains PDFs of both the Quettar (1987) and the
>>Beyond Bree (1984) articles on numerals.
>Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:35:43 -0000
>From: "Lisa Star" <amlug4@...>
>**this address doesn't work.
Perhaps geocities was having one of it's fits when
you were trying to download it.