- Hi Folks, Just a quick note to say Hi! and ask a question. I am
interested in returning (after about 35 years) to learning to use
Tengwar. My interest (for the moment) is in learning to use
Tengwar to write English. Thirty five years ago, when I was
teaching myself, computers were not available to the public, so I
was handwriting. But now I'd like to be able to use my (Mac)
computer. And have found quite a few fonts available. So my
question is: which font(s) do folks here prefer, and why?
- Hello all:
This is my first post ever and it is yesterday night that I've decided to
join the rest of you and learn the Sindarin language. I've already heard
about the Dragon Flame Dictionary and d/l it, but it is missing a lot of
common word like Hello, Tomorrow etc.so where can I find a more complete
resource for the word or even better what are your advices for me, where
should I start.
Do you guys actually can talk elvish frequently? Where do u learn the
Thanks for the help
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- Teithant Antoine Khater:
>I've already heard about the Dragon Flame DictionaryDragonflame is the most complete online resource for Sindarin. If you
> and d/l it, but it is missing a lot of common word like
>Hello, Tomorrow etc.so where can I find a more
>complete resource for the word or even better what are
>your advices for me, where should I start.
can't find the word you're looking for there, it's probably because we
don't have an attested example of that word from Tolkien. For example,
you mentioned the word 'tomorrow'; we don't know how Tolkien would've
rendered 'tomorrow' in Sindarin because he left no Sindarin piece with
that word in it. We do finally have a word for 'today': _sír_. Our
information about Sindarin is incomplete. (BTW, _mae govannen_ means
'well met' and can be used as 'hello' in many cases.) I would suggest
reading the article "Sindarin; the Noble Tongue" at Ardalambion. It
covers what is known about Sindarin, and also what some linguists deduce
from the available specimina. There is a Sindarin course of some sort
at the Council of Elrond. I can't recommend it simpy because I've never
seen it. Maybe someone here can comment on how good or bad it is.
>Do you guys actually can talk elvish frequently?Well, I hate to be the one to tell you, but NO ONE really speaks Elvish.
>Where do u learn the pronunciation?
We study it, we compose in it, but we can't speak it. There's not enough
vocabulary to carry on conversations.
About pronunciation, Appendix E of "The Lord of the Rings" and the notes
on 'A Elbereth Gilthoniel' in "The Road Goes Ever On" provide the rules
of pronouncing Sindarin. Online, the best explanation of pronunciation
I've seen is at http://dombach.florian.bei.t-online.de/phonology.htm ,
but I will admit that I don't agree 100% with everything there. There
are descriptions that contradict what Tolkien tells us. But still, it
is the best Sindarin pronunciation guide you're likely to find on the
Cuio mae, Danny.