Re: [elfscript] Aníron teithad ithîw edhellin.
- Danny Andriës wrote:
> While [the mode of Beleriand used for] SindarinThis seems IMO to be just a natural adaption of the Tengwar to the
> may have been based on an early Quenya mode, there are some
> very distinct differences, as well. For example, the use of tyeller 2
> and 4 for the nasalised stops could not have provided an example for
> the Sindarin values of those tengwar.
phonology of Sindarin.
> And since the Sindar had no need for a...which, apparently in the mode of Beleriand and actually in the King's
> labialised series (with the possible exception of the frequent
> combination "gw" ),
Letter modes, was written with g-tengwa + w-tehta.
> that left both Series III and IV available toTrue, but in such circumstances it would seem more logical and
> represent the velar stops.
economical to use series III than IV, especially since the letters in IV
each requires one pencil-stroke more than those in III.
> Hopefully more examples will be found inThat I am quite sure of.
> Professor Tolkien's as yet unpublished papers that may shed more light
> on the various tengwar modes.
> [regarding the unetymological spelling of Quenya _th_ > _s_]Even Galadriel would have abandoned Quenya in favour of Sindarin during
> I have two theories:
> 1.) Quenya was no longer a native language to anyone in Middle Earth
> (except Galadriel [?], being the last of the Noldorin exiles), and
> scribes automatically wrote a silme to represent the "s" sound as was
> found in their own native modes.
the First Age. Appendix F states that it was "no longer a birth-tongue,
but had become, as it were, and 'Elven-latin', still used for ceremony,
and for high matters of lore and song, by the High Elves", and further,
that Sindarin "was the tongue of all those Elves and Elf-lords that
appear in this history."
Like Angasúle, I agree the most likely explanation for this "error" is
ignorance. Unfortunately we have to take Tolkien's word for old _th_
being written with a different letter, since no Quenya specimen
containing <súle> has been published.
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