934úr (e) and yanta (was: Re: úr >> úre )
- Jun 4, 2002--- In elfscript@y..., "Arden R. Smith" <erilaz@e...> wrote:
>When _r_ was first used as a tengwa-name (in the late 1930s, as far >as I=can tell).
As you probably know, Tolkien changed the meaning of stem *UR- in
"Etymologies" from "be hot" and derivative _r_ "fire" to *UR- "wide,
large, great" (p. 396).
Is there any chance that ms. might help to date when the stem UR- took
up _again_ the meaning "be hot"?
Did the meaning "heat" always applied to the tengwa r >> re? Never
"large" or "fire"?
> the tengwa to which it was applied in fact represented a vowel, as it >do=es in such full modes as the Mode of Beleriand.
Then it is awkward that Tolkien chose that name, beginning with a
long-u, instead of a short one _u_, since r was the _tengwa_ for the
sound /u/, not /u:/. Or am I wrong?
There are Q. Words which start with a short u : ulunde, usque, etc.
Was that "discrepancy" ever explained?
Or maybe it was chosen because it was felt (by the Eldar, not Tolkien)
to be from the stem *uwr-?
So since Tolkien wrote the name yanta starting with the tengwa yanta.
Did he write the word re in tengwar as <r>+<re>, with a sign under
<r> or <r><wilya><re> ?
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