79Re: [elfscript] Quick Question
- Oct 23 3:07 AMArden R. Smith wrote:
> Måns Björkman writes:Quite right: I'm afraid my ad-hoc phonemic analyze was much to hasty, as
> >The sign
> >referred to is a curious character used in the so-called _King's Letter_
> >(DTS 45, 48, 49) for indicating a labialized /m/ which had become /v/ in
> >Third Age Sindarin
> Don't you mean "spirantized /m/" or something similar? /m/ is labial by
Fangorn would have said.
> >(Daniel's description contains a small error that II see. The description of /m/ as a "nasal stop" seems rather odd,
> >hadn't noticed before, BTW: /m/ is a nasal, not a stop).
> Yes, /m/ is a nasal, but so is the sound represented by <mh>, more or less;
> Tolkien describes the sound as "spirant _m_ (or nasal _v_) in his
> discussion of the Cirth in Appendix E. The m/mh distinction is between a
> nasal stop (a term that is indeed used in some linguistic textbooks) and a
> nasal (or at least nasalized) fricative. Such a distinction is not usually
> made, hence the normal use of the generic "nasal".
though. I always pictured the distinction as between a bilabial nasal
/m/ and a bilabial fricative /mh/, which then turned into a labio-dental
Måns Björkman "Mun þu mik!
Störtloppsvägen 8, III Man þik.
SE-129 46 Hägersten Un þu mer!
Sweden An þer."
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