2428Re: Newbie with a question
- Aug 17, 2003Welcome on elfscript Rochvelleth!
> how should you represent the sound written as 'y' but pronouncedThe /y/ sound is either represented with silme nuquerna in 'full writing'
> as a prolonged, fronted 'oo' sound? Is it written as if it were a
> long 'u'?
Sindarin modes or with a dieresis (two points) in the Sindarin tehtar mode.
As well as the other vowel sounds, it can be short or long.
> Are there rules for when we count a vowel sound as longI'm not quite sure what kind of rules you mean. Long vowel sounds (marked
> (e.g. I believe a ^ marks the vowel as long)? Also, I find it
> messy when writing diphthongs (partly because I don't use separate
> symbols, as on Moria Gate, but mark them over
> consonants/carriers) - are there any rules about that?
either with an acute ´ or a circumflex ^ in the Latin transcription which
seems to be an allophonic distinction), are all marked by an acute ´ in the
'full writing' Sindarin modes and by putting the vowel tehta on a long
carrier in the tehta mode.
The published Sindarin tengwar texts by Tolkien himself express all
diphtongs either by a combination of a tengwa with a tehta on it or by two
There's only one text where the whole diphtongs are put over the consonant
tengwar: DTS 51, an Anglosaxon text, a very peculiar mode where the first
(stressed) element of the diphtong is put over the preceding consonant
tengwa and the second (unstressed) element beyond the same tengwa. But for
the transcription of Sindarin, I'd recommend you to stay with the attested
Sindarin modes, after all with the mode of Beleriand, or with the Sindarin
tehtar mode (which might be of Gondorian origin).
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