2421Re: Help with some words...
- Aug 16, 2003Danny teithant:
> However, I disagree with him concerning anna as 'y' in 'away'.Tolkien used vala as consonantal 'w' and in the combinations 'ou' and
'ow'; IMHO there is no reason to suspect that he wouldn't treat anna
the same way. I don't think we have an example by Tolkien of 'ai/ay'
in an English tehta mode.
**A very good point, though I'd add that yanta and uure might still be
used the same way they're used in the 'classical' Quenya mode, but
only in an English mode that places the tehtar on the preceding
tengwa, cf. DTS 41.
> I don't think yanta + triple dot tehta should be used; that wouldclash with his spelling in a book autograph where he uses that
combination for the 'ae' in 'Michael' (The autograph was for Michael
Oh, that's new to me, very thrilling! Can you give any further
information on that authograph? I assume it's still unpublished.
Chris Ruzin teithant:
> I need some help with some words here. I'm writing them in EnglishOriginal mode.
**I don't think 'Original mode' is a good name. I haven't any good
suggestion either. I'd perhaps call it a mode based on the Title Page
inscription, or just an orthographic tehtar mode.
> For a silent 'b', as in 'womb' or 'tomb', would you use Umbar withan over-bar? I would imagine so, but I'm not sure.
**So would imagine I.
> What about a silent 'u', as in 'guild'? Would I use an under-dot ornothing at all?
**I'd suggest to represent it the w-tehta, as in 'twenty, quiet'. The
Sindarin mode of DTS 49 shows this tehtar over the (preceding) tengwa,
even though normal vowel tehtar are put over the following tehta. But
still I don't like doing this, I fool, I'd better like it to be put
under the tengwa, like the tehta for a following consonantal 'y' in
the 'classical' Quenya mode.
> For a possessive word like 'Tom's', would you use any special marksfor the
apostrophe and use Silma, or just use an s-curl like a plural and
The apostrophe seems to be ignored at least in before this genitive-s.
The only attested apostrophe I know of is in DTS 16 in "in'er" which
stands for "in her".
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