1513Re: [elfscript] Re: Hi, and a Tengwar Mode
- Jan 5, 2003On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 15:09:41 -0000 "xeeniseit <xeeniseit@...>"
> > > Another remark on your vowel representations: Isn't it possible-
> > > to have no sign at all for shva?
> > I originally had that, until i saw that Tengwar itself had a 'no
> > vowel'
> > sign, so i decided to use it - which then made deciding on a form
> > for the
> > hhatafim/ultrashort vowels much easier.
> What's your reason to consider the subposed single dot a 'no vowel'
Section "The Vowel A", and Figure 4 (Known ways to write 'calma')
> > According to this idea, of moving row 6 up into row 4, why would-
> you then
> > not want to just move the old row 4 down into row 6? What else
> would you
> > use the oore-tyelle for? |vav| and |yud|?
> Exactly. Two reasons for that: It's the most common assignations vor
> the /w/
> and for the /y/ sound, and it allows you to abandon two of the
> signs, yanta and uure (I think we always have to prefer the primary
> signs). Of
> course, this wouldn't help anything if we'd have to pay for the gain
> of these
> two new assignations (|vav| and |yud|) with the loss of two old
> assignations (|
> t.ad| and |qof|). But that's not the case, because I think |qof| can
> perfectly be
> expressed by quesse. But how to express t.ad?
So you'd put |quf| in row 1 column IV as quesse, and then leave |t.et| as
the only 'extended' stem? I assume it'd have one open rightwards bow,
i.e. same as /t/ except with an extended stem?
> Have you thought about the possibility of expressing all zayn, vav,-
> yud and 3ayn in the same row?
Would that mean moving |vav| and |yud| into row 6 with |zayin| and
|`ayin|, or moving them all into row 4 to replace the emphatics and have
row 4 be the 'voiced fricatives & approximants' row, with |vav| as ampa
and |yud| as anca? Hmm... if that were done, harma/aha right above the
new |yud| could be used for |shin|, since it's sort of palatal like
|yud|. And then |s.adi| could be silme instead of being aze/esse?
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