Re: [elfling-d] Re: In defence of expertise
- You'll be missed. All the best for you and your family.
And yes, those old clouds from way back were awful. :)
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:37 AM, Thorsten Renk <trenk@...> wrote:
> > Unsurprisingly, your goodbye message was not allowed to pass (unless the
> > moderator is still considering it - I would not hold my breath).
> > As a person who holds an interest in the historical sociology of elven
> > linguistics (or is just curious), I would like to know why you left
> > Elfling. Could you post your goodbye message here instead? Maybe other
> > Elflingers would benefit from it as well.
> Hm, sadly the message has indeed not been posted. No doubt the official
> reason is that it's off topic - which is certainly not the real reasons,
> as plenty of off-topic messages do get posted. *sigh* Quite petty, really.
> So, the reason I left Elfling is that in recent years my family has grown,
> and I find myself with less and less spare time to pursue hobbies. At the
> same time, my interests are rather diverse, for example I have spent a lot
> of time last year to develop various techniques for 3-d rendering of
> clouds for an open source flight simulator (when I was younger, I was
> always disappointed in the quality of clouds in flight sims, so it's very
> exciting to be able to do it just as I want it to be...).
> I think that I now understand the outline of Tolkien's language invention
> and the flow of ideas. What's left is (at times rather tedious) work on
> the details, and I find it harder and harder to get myself into that kind
> of work. So I decided that for the mid-future I will pass on the torch - I
> plan to follow what will be going on, but I'll switch to a significantly
> less active role. That amounts to getting out of the (rather
> time-consuming) philosophy discussions on Elfling, discontinuing my work
> on grammar and rigorously declining to do any translations on request.
> The rest of my message was essentially thanks for good discussions, a
> (mostly) good working atmosphere and an apology for some past posts which
> I have come to realize were not appropriate.
> The bit with the good atmosphere is actually true (in case anyone is
> wondering) - I did enjoy the less scholary style of discussion in which
> ideas are simply tossed around, and I had many good inspirations and
> insights on Elfling. At the same time, I did not share the idea that
> banning half of the most knowledgeable Elvish scholars is a good idea, so
> I was also glad that there were other places to discuss.
> So, it's not primarily the Elfling moderation which prompted me to leave,
> but to a good degree it is the large amount of energy it costs to explain
> one's own position and ideas in the background of a conflict that has been
> going on even before I was ever interested in Elvish. I am passionate
> about non-scholarly aspects of Elvish as well - I just don't think
> confusing scholarly work and aesthetic invention is particularly smart, or
> that passing off one's own version of Elvish as the genuine Tolkien thing
> is honest - and I am just tired of explaining that the (subjective) 1000th
> time while carefully paying attention not to insult anyone who is
> dishonest in precisely that way (which was, I admit, often tempting).
> * Thorsten
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