Re: Further Documentation Indeed
- Peter wrote:
> One is left gaping in quiet astonishment ...I was actually *removed* from the subscription list for wandering too
far into issues of philosophy, even though philosophy is pretty much
all I have ever posted about (offending *attempted* post appended
below for reference (and possibly edification)).
The irony is that only in philosophy will we find the tools to resolve
these (wholly illusory) conflicts of perspective.
The greater irony is that Elfling was originally founded to provide an
outlet for people who felt that Julian, in his attempt to keep the
discourse civil on Tolklang, wasn't giving them a fair opportunity to
> To my mind, denying Quenya ambiguity denies it a bit of its
> If there is something about Tolkien's languages that has
> drawn us together, we will find it in Tolkien's perspective,
> by reading what Tolkien wrote. If what Tolkien wrote seems
> strange, that only means that we haven't gotten it yet.
> Who here will stand up to say that they know as much (or
> even a fraction as much) about language (Germanic and English
> in particular)?
> Certainly Tolkien is the only authority on what Elvish is
> and should be.
> Shall we then, in trying to sift through the various words
> and devices of Quenya and Sindarin in order to pick a set
> which Tolkien would have set out together, ruthlessly
> eliminate all "clashes"?
> The evidence is that we don't understand Tolkien well enough
> yet to begin that purge.
I must say that I am rather stunned that posts like this one by my
namesake are banned in Elfling. It seems that there is little room
there for trying to establish simple agreement. The point of this
post was not to flame or insult, nor did it include such: it was to
show that both sides agreed on one matter. Whatever disagreement
there may be, there are no sides in this supposed conflict that think
that Neo-Elvish should not be used.
For my part, I want to maintain peace and stick to facts (or my
interpretations of them). There are too many far more real conflicts
in the world to propagate imaginary or minor disputes in such a small
community as we *_Lambendili_ are. Things would be easier, if we
could all remember that we share a very special kind of bond. We all
love the languages of Tolkien. And this enthusiasm, my friends, is
indeed very rare.
Nai Eru le mánata,