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Re: [elfling-d] Re: Hege's seemliness

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  • Rodrigo Jaroszewski
    I read Helge s post yesterday, and for a moment I thought about replying to it. Then I though I had so many better ways of spending my Sunday. Seriously, does
    Message 1 of 2 , Jun 16, 2008
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      I read Helge's post yesterday, and for a moment I thought about replying to
      it. Then I though I had so many better ways of spending my Sunday.

      Seriously, does it hurt that much to write a disclaimer and add a few
      asterisks here and there?

      --
      Rodrigo Jaroszewski
      http://elfico.com.br

      On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Carl F. Hostetter <Aelfwine@...>
      wrote:

      > Well, OK, I will respond to this particular point, as it highlights
      > what I just wrote in my most recent post, about Helge's use of "seem"
      > to telegraph the assertion of a blatant falsehood:
      >
      > > Elsewhere, Hostetter seems to be telling us that any desire to
      > > actually use
      > > Tolkien's Elvish is wrong and immoral from the beginning. In Elfling
      > > Message
      > > 11150 he likens such desires to Boromir desiring to use the Ring:
      > >
      > > > > Boromir wanted to use the Ring, instead of disposing of it
      > > properly; and
      > > > > resented the fact that it was given to another instead of
      > > himself, and
      > > > > that it was kept only by that other until the quest could be
      > > fulfilled;
      > > > > and succumbed to his desires and attacked the Ringbearer.
      >
      > Helge's big lie here is that "the Ring" in this parable refers to
      > "Tolkien's Elvish". Whereas in fact it refers (plainly, and as
      > instantly seen from the context of the discussion from which Helge has
      > dislocated this statement) to Tolkien's _linguistic papers_: which is
      > what Helge and David Salo wish to possess as greatly as Boromir did
      > the Ring, which they feel they are entitled to as strongly as Boromir
      > did the Ring, and which like Boromir they have attacked us for in an
      > attempt to gain it (though Boromir only did so once, and he repented
      > of it).
      >
      > There is _obviously_ _nothing at all_ "immoral" about using Elvish.
      > What a gapingly absurd thing to claim! Really, can even HELGE believe
      > this nonsense? And how dumb must Helge think his readers are, to think
      > that they will believe his claim?
      >
      > Carl
      >
      >
      >


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