Re: Banned from yet another site
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Aaron Shaw" <AaronShaw@m...> wrote:
>I have to whole heartedly agree with this statement having seen it
> Honestly, though, I think the problem lies with those who run these
> sites more than anywhere else.
first hand. Not all posts are written with an attitude, but far too
many are read with one.
> The problem arises when, on TOLKIENobsolete
> websites, people actively support ideas which can be rendered
> by reference to Tolkien's text or deductive reasoning. There is noHowever, there are quite a number of places where they would much
> harm in bringing these situations to light.
rather these situations not be brought to light and will actively
silence those who make an attempt to do so.
> We CAN'T use the language(s) withoutfor
> assumptions so an introduction to theory is absolutely imperative
> anyone who wants to learn these languages.Absolutely. The technical and theoretical aspects of the languages
should not be (indeed, cannot be) separated from the study of them.
New comers should not be sheilded from the discussions simply out of
a desire to avoid confusing them. True, they may feel overwhelmed and
confused at first, but those who are truly interested will learn and
get passed it. Even if their only desire is to compose poetry, they
still should understand where Tolkien left off and assumption and
theory pick up.
- On Dec 15, 2004, at 11:51 PM, iavasj wrote:
> Absolutely. The technical and theoretical aspects of the languagesThis is it exactly. I don't know where people ever got the idea that
> should not be (indeed, cannot be) separated from the study of them.
learning a language -- or, in the case of Elvish, and other
poorly-attested dead languages, more accurately learning _about_ a
language (indeed, ESPECIALLY in such cases) -- wouldn't involve a lot
of often technical study and discussion, and impose demands of
precision and rigor: just like any other scholarly endeavor.
Carl F. Hostetter Aelfwine@... http://www.elvish.org
ho bios brachys, he de techne makre.
Ars longa, vita brevis.
The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.
"I wish life was not so short," he thought. "Languages take such
a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about."