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  • mljones1947
    The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen Coding. I had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an explanation. Here s an
    Message 1 of 29 , May 8 9:25 PM
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      The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen Coding. I had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an explanation. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)

      <excerpt>

      Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small snippets of code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For example, the sequence

      div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a

      expands into

      <div id="page">
      <div class="logo"></div>
      <ul id="navigation">
      <li><a href=""></a></li>
      <li><a href=""></a></li>
      <li><a href=""></a></li>
      <li><a href=""></a></li>
      <li><a href=""></a></li>
      </ul>
      </div>

      The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.

      </excerpt>

      Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't handle this stuff.
    • Bob Hindal
      I haven t figured how to enable and use it yet. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      Message 2 of 29 , May 8 10:00 PM
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        I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.




        >________________________________
        > From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...>
        >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
        >Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
        >Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
        >
        >

        >The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen Coding. I had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an explanation. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
        >
        ><excerpt>
        >
        >Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small snippets of code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For example, the sequence
        >
        >div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
        >
        >expands into
        >
        ><div id="page">
        ><div class="logo"></div>
        ><ul id="navigation">
        ><li><a href=""></a></li>
        ><li><a href=""></a></li>
        ><li><a href=""></a></li>
        ><li><a href=""></a></li>
        ><li><a href=""></a></li>
        ></ul>
        ></div>
        >
        >The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
        >
        ></excerpt>
        >
        >Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't handle this stuff.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >

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      • Kelvin Wu
        this video demo helps you understand how it works: http://vimeo.com/7405114 looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts... -- Sent from my
        Message 3 of 29 , May 8 11:27 PM
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          this video demo helps you understand how it works: http://vimeo.com/7405114

          looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...


          --
          Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.



          On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:

          > **
          >
          >
          > I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
          >
          > >________________________________
          > > From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...>
          > >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
          > >Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
          > >Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
          >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen Coding. I
          > had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an explanation.
          > Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
          > >
          > ><excerpt>
          > >
          > >Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small snippets of
          > code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For example,
          > the sequence
          > >
          > >div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
          > >
          > >expands into
          > >
          > ><div id="page">
          > ><div class="logo"></div>
          > ><ul id="navigation">
          > ><li><a href=""></a></li>
          > ><li><a href=""></a></li>
          > ><li><a href=""></a></li>
          > ><li><a href=""></a></li>
          > ><li><a href=""></a></li>
          > ></ul>
          > ></div>
          > >
          > >The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
          > functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
          > >
          > ></excerpt>
          > >
          > >Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't handle this
          > stuff.
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          >
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          >
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        • John Smith
          its actually very cool, and even if you don t remember all the shortcuts just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
          Message 4 of 29 , May 9 12:33 AM
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            its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the shortcuts
            just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
            > this video demo helps you understand how it works: http://vimeo.com/7405114
            >
            > looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...
            >
            >
            > --
            > Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
            >
            >
            >
            > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
            >
            >
            >> **
            >>
            >>
            >> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
            >>
            >>
            >>> ________________________________
            >>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...>
            >>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
            >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
            >>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
            >>>
            >>>
            >>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen Coding. I
            >>>
            >> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an explanation.
            >> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
            >>
            >>> <excerpt>
            >>>
            >>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small snippets of
            >>>
            >> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For example,
            >> the sequence
            >>
            >>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
            >>>
            >>> expands into
            >>>
            >>> <div id="page">
            >>> <div class="logo"></div>
            >>> <ul id="navigation">
            >>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
            >>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
            >>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
            >>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
            >>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
            >>> </ul>
            >>> </div>
            >>>
            >>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
            >>>
            >> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
            >>
            >>> </excerpt>
            >>>
            >>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't handle this
            >>>
            >> stuff.
            >>
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>
            >>>
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            >>
            >>
            >>
            >>
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          • Bob Hindal
            How do you enable it, though? ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            Message 5 of 29 , May 9 6:27 AM
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              How do you enable it, though?




              >________________________________
              > From: John Smith <john@...>
              >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
              >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
              >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
              >
              >

              >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the shortcuts
              >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
              >> this video demo helps you understand how it works: http://vimeo.com/7405114
              >>
              >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...
              >>
              >>
              >> --
              >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
              >>
              >>
              >>
              >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
              >>
              >>
              >>> **
              >>>
              >>>
              >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
              >>>
              >>>
              >>>> ________________________________
              >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...>
              >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
              >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
              >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
              >>>>
              >>>>
              >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen Coding. I
              >>>>
              >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an explanation.
              >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
              >>>
              >>>> <excerpt>
              >>>>
              >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small snippets of
              >>>>
              >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For example,
              >>> the sequence
              >>>
              >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
              >>>>
              >>>> expands into
              >>>>
              >>>> <div id="page">
              >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
              >>>> <ul id="navigation">
              >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
              >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
              >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
              >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
              >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
              >>>> </ul>
              >>>> </div>
              >>>>
              >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
              >>>>
              >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
              >>>
              >>>> </excerpt>
              >>>>
              >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't handle this
              >>>>
              >>> stuff.
              >>>
              >>>>
              >>>>
              >>>>
              >>>>
              >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >>>
              >>>
              >>>
              >>>
              >>
              >>
              >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >>
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              >> http://www.editplus.comYahoo! Groups Links
              >>
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            • John Smith
              er....menu point zen coding - use zen coding have to say its not that complicated :-)
              Message 6 of 29 , May 9 4:17 PM
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                er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding

                have to say its not that complicated :-)


                >
                >
                > How do you enable it, though?
                >
                > >________________________________
                > > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                > >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                > >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                > >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the shortcuts
                > >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                > >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                > http://vimeo.com/7405114
                > >>
                > >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...
                > >>
                > >>
                > >> --
                > >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                > >>
                > >>
                > >>
                > >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                > <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                > >>
                > >>
                > >>> **
                > >>>
                > >>>
                > >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                > >>>
                > >>>
                > >>>> ________________________________
                > >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                > <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                > >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                > >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                > >>>>
                > >>>>
                > >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen
                > Coding. I
                > >>>>
                > >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                > explanation.
                > >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                > >>>
                > >>>> <excerpt>
                > >>>>
                > >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                > snippets of
                > >>>>
                > >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For
                > example,
                > >>> the sequence
                > >>>
                > >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                > >>>>
                > >>>> expands into
                > >>>>
                > >>>> <div id="page">
                > >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                > >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                > >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                > >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                > >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                > >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                > >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                > >>>> </ul>
                > >>>> </div>
                > >>>>
                > >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
                > >>>>
                > >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
                > >>>
                > >>>> </excerpt>
                > >>>>
                > >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't handle
                > this
                > >>>>
                > >>> stuff.
                > >>>
                > >>>>
                > >>>>
                > >>>>
                > >>>>
                > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                > >>>
                > >>>
                > >>>
                > >>>
                > >>
                > >>
                > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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                > >>
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                > >> ------------------------------------
                > >>
                > >> http://www.editplus.comYahoo! Groups Links
                > >>
                > >>
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              • John Smith
                ok, i ve just tried my last comment...... and if its as i understand it, its a disaster eg enabled zencoding, in html page write the following div#page try
                Message 7 of 29 , May 9 4:21 PM
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                  ok, i've just tried my last comment......
                  and if its as i understand it, its a disaster

                  eg enabled zencoding, in html page
                  write the following
                  div#page

                  try tab, return, nothing happens
                  go to menu point zen coding -> expand abbreviation(no keyboard shortcut)
                  and it works

                  hmmm this is not how zen coding is supposed to work.
                  now ask the same question as everyone else, how does it work ?

                  >
                  >
                  > How do you enable it, though?
                  >
                  > >________________________________
                  > > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                  > >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                  > >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                  > >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the shortcuts
                  > >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                  > >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                  > http://vimeo.com/7405114
                  > >>
                  > >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...
                  > >>
                  > >>
                  > >> --
                  > >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                  > >>
                  > >>
                  > >>
                  > >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                  > <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                  > >>
                  > >>
                  > >>> **
                  > >>>
                  > >>>
                  > >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                  > >>>
                  > >>>
                  > >>>> ________________________________
                  > >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                  > <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                  > >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                  > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                  > >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                  > >>>>
                  > >>>>
                  > >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen
                  > Coding. I
                  > >>>>
                  > >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                  > explanation.
                  > >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                  > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                  > >>>
                  > >>>> <excerpt>
                  > >>>>
                  > >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                  > snippets of
                  > >>>>
                  > >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For
                  > example,
                  > >>> the sequence
                  > >>>
                  > >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                  > >>>>
                  > >>>> expands into
                  > >>>>
                  > >>>> <div id="page">
                  > >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                  > >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                  > >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                  > >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                  > >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                  > >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                  > >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                  > >>>> </ul>
                  > >>>> </div>
                  > >>>>
                  > >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
                  > >>>>
                  > >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
                  > >>>
                  > >>>> </excerpt>
                  > >>>>
                  > >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't handle
                  > this
                  > >>>>
                  > >>> stuff.
                  > >>>
                  > >>>>
                  > >>>>
                  > >>>>
                  > >>>>
                  > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  > >>>
                  > >>>
                  > >>>
                  > >>>
                  > >>
                  > >>
                  > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  > >>
                  > >>
                  > >>
                  > >> ------------------------------------
                  > >>
                  > >> http://www.editplus.comYahoo! Groups Links
                  > >>
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                • John Smith
                  a plus point with the update you can now search in files, and still use the program - before you had to wait until the search finished
                  Message 8 of 29 , May 9 4:24 PM
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                    a plus point with the update

                    you can now search in files, and still use the program
                    - before you had to wait until the search finished
                  • Bob Hindal
                    Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says something like Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it on? I click yes and no
                    Message 9 of 29 , May 9 10:08 PM
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                      Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says something like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it on?" I click yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just the obvious? er?? ;)




                      >________________________________
                      > From: John Smith <john@...>
                      >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                      >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                      >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                      >
                      >

                      >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                      >
                      >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                      >
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> How do you enable it, though?
                      >>
                      >> >________________________________
                      >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                      >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                      >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                      >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                      >> >
                      >> >
                      >> >
                      >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the shortcuts
                      >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                      >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                      >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                      >> >>
                      >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...
                      >> >>
                      >> >>
                      >> >> --
                      >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                      >> >>
                      >> >>
                      >> >>
                      >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                      >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                      >> >>
                      >> >>
                      >> >>> **
                      >> >>>
                      >> >>>
                      >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                      >> >>>
                      >> >>>
                      >> >>>> ________________________________
                      >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                      >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                      >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                      >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                      >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen
                      >> Coding. I
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                      >> explanation.
                      >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                      >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                      >> >>>
                      >> >>>> <excerpt>
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                      >> snippets of
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For
                      >> example,
                      >> >>> the sequence
                      >> >>>
                      >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>>> expands into
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>>> <div id="page">
                      >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                      >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                      >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                      >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                      >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                      >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                      >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                      >> >>>> </ul>
                      >> >>>> </div>
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
                      >> >>>
                      >> >>>> </excerpt>
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't handle
                      >> this
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>> stuff.
                      >> >>>
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>>>
                      >> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      >> >>>
                      >> >>>
                      >> >>>
                      >> >>>
                      >> >>
                      >> >>
                      >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      >> >>
                      >> >>
                      >> >>
                      >> >> ------------------------------------
                      >> >>
                      >> >> http://www.editplus.comYahoo! Groups Links
                      >> >>
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                    • John C Craig
                      Hi Bob, It s working for me just fine. I went to the new Zen Coding menu and clicked clicked Use Zen Coding to put a check mark by it. Next I typed a
                      Message 10 of 29 , May 9 10:22 PM
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                        Hi Bob,

                        It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding" menu and
                        clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it. Next I typed a
                        simple line such as the following...

                        div#test

                        and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to this...

                        <div id="test"></div>

                        I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line, immediately
                        after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its magic. If I
                        hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen doesn't do its
                        thing.

                        As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and repeated
                        my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I wanted to
                        enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked. I checked
                        the menu item and it was once again checked.

                        If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and re-install
                        the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                        -John


                        On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:

                        > **
                        >
                        >
                        > Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says something
                        > like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it on?" I click
                        > yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just the obvious?
                        > er?? ;)
                        >
                        > >________________________________
                        > > From: John Smith <john@...>
                        > >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                        > >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                        > >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                        > >
                        > >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                        > >
                        > >>
                        > >>
                        > >> How do you enable it, though?
                        > >>
                        > >> >________________________________
                        > >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                        > >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                        > >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                        > >> >
                        > >> >
                        > >> >
                        > >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the
                        > shortcuts
                        > >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                        > >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                        > >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                        > >> >>
                        > >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...
                        > >> >>
                        > >> >>
                        > >> >> --
                        > >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                        > >> >>
                        > >> >>
                        > >> >>
                        > >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                        > >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                        > >> >>
                        > >> >>
                        > >> >>> **
                        > >> >>>
                        > >> >>>
                        > >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                        > >> >>>
                        > >> >>>
                        > >> >>>> ________________________________
                        > >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                        > >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                        > >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                        > >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen
                        > >> Coding. I
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                        > >> explanation.
                        > >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                        > >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                        > >> >>>
                        > >> >>>> <excerpt>
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                        > >> snippets of
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For
                        > >> example,
                        > >> >>> the sequence
                        > >> >>>
                        > >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>>> expands into
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>>> <div id="page">
                        > >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                        > >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                        > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                        > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                        > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                        > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                        > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                        > >> >>>> </ul>
                        > >> >>>> </div>
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
                        > >> >>>
                        > >> >>>> </excerpt>
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't handle
                        > >> this
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>> stuff.
                        > >> >>>
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>>>
                        > >> >>>>
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                        > >> >>>
                        > >> >>>
                        > >> >>>
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                      • John Smith
                        hmmm...ok strange as i say i got it working, but the implementation as i ve unterstood it at the moment is not good. Without a keyboard shortcut, i d in fact
                        Message 11 of 29 , May 10 1:12 AM
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                          hmmm...ok strange
                          as i say i got it working, but the implementation as i've unterstood it
                          at the moment is not good.
                          Without a keyboard shortcut, i'd in fact say its useless.
                          In other editors, just pressing tab expands the code.
                          But maybe i'm missing something too ?


                          >
                          >
                          > Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says
                          > something like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it
                          > on?" I click yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than
                          > just the obvious? er?? ;)
                          >
                          > >________________________________
                          > > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                          > >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                          > >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                          > >
                          > >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                          > >
                          > >>
                          > >>
                          > >> How do you enable it, though?
                          > >>
                          > >> >________________________________
                          > >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>
                          > <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                          > >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                          > >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                          > >> >
                          > >> >
                          > >> >
                          > >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the
                          > shortcuts
                          > >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                          > >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                          > >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >> --
                          > >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                          > <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>
                          > >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >>> **
                          > >> >>>
                          > >> >>>
                          > >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                          > >> >>>
                          > >> >>>
                          > >> >>>> ________________________________
                          > >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                          > <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>
                          > >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                          > >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                          > <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                          > >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen
                          > >> Coding. I
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                          > >> explanation.
                          > >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                          > >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                          > >> >>>
                          > >> >>>> <excerpt>
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                          > >> snippets of
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For
                          > >> example,
                          > >> >>> the sequence
                          > >> >>>
                          > >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>>> expands into
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>>> <div id="page">
                          > >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                          > >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                          > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                          > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                          > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                          > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                          > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                          > >> >>>> </ul>
                          > >> >>>> </div>
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
                          > >> >>>
                          > >> >>>> </excerpt>
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't handle
                          > >> this
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>> stuff.
                          > >> >>>
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>>>
                          > >> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                          > >> >>>
                          > >> >>>
                          > >> >>>
                          > >> >>>
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >> ------------------------------------
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >> http://www.editplus.comYahoo! Groups Links
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >>
                          > >> >
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                        • Kelvin Wu
                          You can assign keyboard shortcut for Zen Coding s commands in Preferences. I use Ctrl + = to expand. -- Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they re
                          Message 12 of 29 , May 10 1:16 AM
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                            You can assign keyboard shortcut for Zen Coding's commands in Preferences.
                            I use "Ctrl + =" to expand.


                            --
                            Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.



                            On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:12 PM, John Smith <john@...> wrote:

                            > **
                            >
                            >
                            > hmmm...ok strange
                            > as i say i got it working, but the implementation as i've unterstood it
                            > at the moment is not good.
                            > Without a keyboard shortcut, i'd in fact say its useless.
                            > In other editors, just pressing tab expands the code.
                            > But maybe i'm missing something too ?
                            >
                            >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says
                            > > something like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it
                            > > on?" I click yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than
                            > > just the obvious? er?? ;)
                            > >
                            > > >________________________________
                            > > > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                            > > >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                            > > >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                            > > >
                            > > >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                            > > >
                            > > >>
                            > > >>
                            > > >> How do you enable it, though?
                            > > >>
                            > > >> >________________________________
                            > > >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>
                            > > <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                            > > >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                            > > >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                            > > >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                            > > >> >
                            > > >> >
                            > > >> >
                            > > >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the
                            > > shortcuts
                            > > >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                            > > >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                            > > >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                            > > >> >>
                            > > >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...
                            > > >> >>
                            > > >> >>
                            > > >> >> --
                            > > >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                            > > >> >>
                            > > >> >>
                            > > >> >>
                            > > >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                            > > <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>
                            > > >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                            > > >> >>
                            > > >> >>
                            > > >> >>> **
                            > > >> >>>
                            > > >> >>>
                            > > >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                            > > >> >>>
                            > > >> >>>
                            > > >> >>>> ________________________________
                            > > >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                            > > <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>
                            > > >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                            > > >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                            > > <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                            >
                            > > >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                            > > >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen
                            > > >> Coding. I
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                            > > >> explanation.
                            > > >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                            > > >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                            > > >> >>>
                            > > >> >>>> <excerpt>
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                            > > >> snippets of
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For
                            > > >> example,
                            > > >> >>> the sequence
                            > > >> >>>
                            > > >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>>> expands into
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>>> <div id="page">
                            > > >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                            > > >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                            > > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                            > > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                            > > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                            > > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                            > > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                            > > >> >>>> </ul>
                            > > >> >>>> </div>
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
                            > > >> >>>
                            > > >> >>>> </excerpt>
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't handle
                            > > >> this
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>> stuff.
                            > > >> >>>
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>>>
                            > > >> >>>>
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                            > > >> >>>
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                            > > >> >>
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                            > > >> >>
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                          • John Smith
                            ok i ve assigned it now over permenant settings to alt-e and it seems to work fine
                            Message 13 of 29 , May 10 2:02 AM
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                              ok i've assigned it now over permenant settings to alt-e and it seems to
                              work fine


                              >
                              >
                              > Hi Bob,
                              >
                              > It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding" menu and
                              > clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it. Next I typed a
                              > simple line such as the following...
                              >
                              > div#test
                              >
                              > and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to this...
                              >
                              > <div id="test"></div>
                              >
                              > I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line, immediately
                              > after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its magic. If I
                              > hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen doesn't
                              > do its
                              > thing.
                              >
                              > As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and repeated
                              > my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I wanted to
                              > enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked. I checked
                              > the menu item and it was once again checked.
                              >
                              > If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and
                              > re-install
                              > the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                              > -John
                              >
                              > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                              > <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                              >
                              > > **
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says something
                              > > like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it on?" I
                              > click
                              > > yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just the
                              > obvious?
                              > > er?? ;)
                              > >
                              > > >________________________________
                              > > > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                              > > >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                              > > >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                              > > >
                              > > >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                              > > >
                              > > >>
                              > > >>
                              > > >> How do you enable it, though?
                              > > >>
                              > > >> >________________________________
                              > > >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>
                              > <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                              > > >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                              > > >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                              > > >> >
                              > > >> >
                              > > >> >
                              > > >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the
                              > > shortcuts
                              > > >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                              > > >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                              > > >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                              > > >> >>
                              > > >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...
                              > > >> >>
                              > > >> >>
                              > > >> >> --
                              > > >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                              > > >> >>
                              > > >> >>
                              > > >> >>
                              > > >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                              > <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>
                              > > >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                              > > >> >>
                              > > >> >>
                              > > >> >>> **
                              > > >> >>>
                              > > >> >>>
                              > > >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                              > > >> >>>
                              > > >> >>>
                              > > >> >>>> ________________________________
                              > > >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                              > <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>
                              > > >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                              > > >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                              > <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > > >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                              > > >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen
                              > > >> Coding. I
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                              > > >> explanation.
                              > > >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                              > > >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                              > > >> >>>
                              > > >> >>>> <excerpt>
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                              > > >> snippets of
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For
                              > > >> example,
                              > > >> >>> the sequence
                              > > >> >>>
                              > > >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>>> expands into
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>>> <div id="page">
                              > > >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                              > > >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                              > > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                              > > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                              > > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                              > > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                              > > >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                              > > >> >>>> </ul>
                              > > >> >>>> </div>
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
                              > > >> >>>
                              > > >> >>>> </excerpt>
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't
                              > handle
                              > > >> this
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>> stuff.
                              > > >> >>>
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>>>
                              > > >> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                              > > >> >>>
                              > > >> >>>
                              > > >> >>>
                              > > >> >>>
                              > > >> >>
                              > > >> >>
                              > > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                              > > >> >>
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                              > > >> >> ------------------------------------
                              > > >> >>
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                            • Bob Hindal
                              When I click the Use Zen Coding in the menu, no checkmark shows up at all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error message saying it
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                                When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark shows up at all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error message saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click yes, and still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work since it first showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I choose. I use Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at all?


                                I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here. Thank you for the help and advice.




                                >________________________________
                                > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                >
                                >

                                >Hi Bob,
                                >
                                >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding" menu and
                                >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it. Next I typed a
                                >simple line such as the following...
                                >
                                >div#test
                                >
                                >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to this...
                                >
                                ><div id="test"></div>
                                >
                                >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line, immediately
                                >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its magic. If I
                                >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen doesn't do its
                                >thing.
                                >
                                >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and repeated
                                >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I wanted to
                                >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked. I checked
                                >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                >
                                >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and re-install
                                >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                >-John
                                >
                                >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                >
                                >> **
                                >>
                                >>
                                >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says something
                                >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it on?" I click
                                >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just the obvious?
                                >> er?? ;)
                                >>
                                >> >________________________________
                                >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                >> >
                                >> >
                                >> >
                                >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                >> >
                                >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                >> >
                                >> >>
                                >> >>
                                >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                >> >>
                                >> >> >________________________________
                                >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                                >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                >> >> >
                                >> >> >
                                >> >> >
                                >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the
                                >> shortcuts
                                >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                >> >> >>
                                >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...
                                >> >> >>
                                >> >> >>
                                >> >> >> --
                                >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                                >> >> >>
                                >> >> >>
                                >> >> >>
                                >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                                >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                >> >> >>
                                >> >> >>
                                >> >> >>> **
                                >> >> >>>
                                >> >> >>>
                                >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                >> >> >>>
                                >> >> >>>
                                >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                >> >> >>>>
                                >> >> >>>>
                                >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen
                                >> >> Coding. I
                                >> >> >>>>
                                >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                                >> >> explanation.
                                >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                >> >> >>>
                                >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                >> >> >>>>
                                >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                                >> >> snippets of
                                >> >> >>>>
                                >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For
                                >> >> example,
                                >> >> >>> the sequence
                                >> >> >>>
                                >> >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                >> >> >>>>
                                >> >> >>>> expands into
                                >> >> >>>>
                                >> >> >>>> <div id="page">
                                >> >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                                >> >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                                >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                >> >> >>>> </ul>
                                >> >> >>>> </div>
                                >> >> >>>>
                                >> >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
                                >> >> >>>>
                                >> >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
                                >> >> >>>
                                >> >> >>>> </excerpt>
                                >> >> >>>>
                                >> >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't handle
                                >> >> this
                                >> >> >>>>
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                              • John C Craig
                                I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any faulty syntax. For example, div*3p doesn t do anything at all when you press the Ctrl-e shortcut
                                Message 15 of 29 , May 10 7:48 AM
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                                  I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any faulty
                                  syntax. For example, div*3p doesn't do anything at all when you press the
                                  Ctrl-e shortcut key, but div*3>p does work to create the three <div> tags
                                  each containing a paragraph. No warning or anything, just nothing happens
                                  at all if the syntax, or cursor position for that matter, isn't correct.
                                  However, it sounds like you're not seeing the checkmark in the menu, so
                                  that seems like a different issue. Do you have your own modifications to
                                  the settings, such that you copy over the new settings files after an
                                  install of EditPlus? I do this, but I didn't have the problem you're
                                  seeing. Perhaps you should try the zen immediately after a fresh install,
                                  before you replace any of the settings and other files.

                                  On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:

                                  > **
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark shows up at
                                  > all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error message
                                  > saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click yes, and
                                  > still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work since it first
                                  > showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I choose. I use
                                  > Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at all?
                                  >
                                  > I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here. Thank you for
                                  > the help and advice.
                                  >
                                  > >________________________________
                                  > > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                  > >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                  > >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                  > >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >Hi Bob,
                                  > >
                                  > >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding" menu and
                                  > >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it. Next I typed a
                                  > >simple line such as the following...
                                  > >
                                  > >div#test
                                  > >
                                  > >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to this...
                                  > >
                                  > ><div id="test"></div>
                                  > >
                                  > >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line, immediately
                                  > >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its magic. If I
                                  > >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen doesn't do
                                  > its
                                  > >thing.
                                  > >
                                  > >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and repeated
                                  > >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I wanted to
                                  > >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked. I checked
                                  > >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                  > >
                                  > >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and
                                  > re-install
                                  > >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                  > >-John
                                  > >
                                  > >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > >> **
                                  > >>
                                  > >>
                                  > >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says something
                                  > >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it on?" I
                                  > click
                                  > >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just the
                                  > obvious?
                                  > >> er?? ;)
                                  > >>
                                  > >> >________________________________
                                  > >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                  > >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                  > >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                  > >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                  > >> >
                                  > >> >
                                  > >> >
                                  > >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                  > >> >
                                  > >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                  > >> >
                                  > >> >>
                                  > >> >>
                                  > >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                  > >> >>
                                  > >> >> >________________________________
                                  > >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                                  > >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                  > >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                  > >> >> >
                                  > >> >> >
                                  > >> >> >
                                  > >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the
                                  > >> shortcuts
                                  > >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                  > >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                  > >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                  > >> >> >>
                                  > >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...
                                  > >> >> >>
                                  > >> >> >>
                                  > >> >> >> --
                                  > >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                                  > >> >> >>
                                  > >> >> >>
                                  > >> >> >>
                                  > >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                                  > >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                  > >> >> >>
                                  > >> >> >>
                                  > >> >> >>> **
                                  > >> >> >>>
                                  > >> >> >>>
                                  > >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                  > >> >> >>>
                                  > >> >> >>>
                                  > >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                  > >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                  > >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                  > >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com
                                  > >
                                  > >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                  > >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                  > >> >> >>>>
                                  > >> >> >>>>
                                  > >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen
                                  > >> >> Coding. I
                                  > >> >> >>>>
                                  > >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                                  > >> >> explanation.
                                  > >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                  > >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                  > >> >> >>>
                                  > >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                  > >> >> >>>>
                                  > >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                                  > >> >> snippets of
                                  > >> >> >>>>
                                  > >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For
                                  > >> >> example,
                                  > >> >> >>> the sequence
                                  > >> >> >>>
                                  > >> >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                  > >> >> >>>>
                                  > >> >> >>>> expands into
                                  > >> >> >>>>
                                  > >> >> >>>> <div id="page">
                                  > >> >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                                  > >> >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                                  > >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                  > >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                  > >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                  > >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                  > >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                  > >> >> >>>> </ul>
                                  > >> >> >>>> </div>
                                  > >> >> >>>>
                                  > >> >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
                                  > >> >> >>>>
                                  > >> >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
                                  > >> >> >>>
                                  > >> >> >>>> </excerpt>
                                  > >> >> >>>>
                                  > >> >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't
                                  > handle
                                  > >> >> this
                                  > >> >> >>>>
                                  > >> >> >>> stuff.
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                                • Daniel Gibby
                                  Zen Coding looks pretty cool. It may be especially nice to just remember that you can use the CSS selector type syntax when working with JavaScript or HTML.
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                                    Zen Coding looks pretty cool. It may be especially nice to just remember
                                    that you can use the CSS selector type syntax when working with JavaScript
                                    or HTML.

                                    However, I'm not sure EditPlus supports everything recommended yet.

                                    http://code.google.com/p/zen-coding/downloads/detail?name=ZenCodingCheatSheet.pdf

                                    I tried a few things on this like html:4s and link:rss and it doesn't come
                                    out the way the PDF describes.

                                    On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM, mljones1947 <mljones1947@...> wrote:

                                    > **
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen Coding. I had
                                    > no idea what that was until I just went looking for an explanation. Here's
                                    > an excerpt from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                    >
                                    > <excerpt>
                                    >
                                    > Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small snippets of
                                    > code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For example,
                                    > the sequence
                                    >
                                    > div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                    >
                                    > expands into
                                    >
                                    > <div id="page">
                                    > <div class="logo"></div>
                                    > <ul id="navigation">
                                    > <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                    > <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                    > <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                    > <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                    > <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                    > </ul>
                                    > </div>
                                    >
                                    > The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
                                    > functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
                                    >
                                    > </excerpt>
                                    >
                                    > Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't handle this
                                    > stuff.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >


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                                  • Bob Hindal
                                    Well, I did a fresh install with default everything and it still doesn t show the checkmark for the Zen Coding. I did notice this file in the syntax files
                                    Message 17 of 29 , May 10 8:48 AM
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                                      Well, I did a fresh install with default everything and it still doesn't show the checkmark for the Zen Coding. I did notice this file in the syntax files directory: zen_coding_epp.js


                                      Am I supposed to make a user tool for that or anything?




                                      >________________________________
                                      > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                      >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                      >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:48 AM
                                      >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                      >
                                      >

                                      >I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any faulty
                                      >syntax. For example, div*3p doesn't do anything at all when you press the
                                      >Ctrl-e shortcut key, but div*3>p does work to create the three <div> tags
                                      >each containing a paragraph. No warning or anything, just nothing happens
                                      >at all if the syntax, or cursor position for that matter, isn't correct.
                                      >However, it sounds like you're not seeing the checkmark in the menu, so
                                      >that seems like a different issue. Do you have your own modifications to
                                      >the settings, such that you copy over the new settings files after an
                                      >install of EditPlus? I do this, but I didn't have the problem you're
                                      >seeing. Perhaps you should try the zen immediately after a fresh install,
                                      >before you replace any of the settings and other files.
                                      >
                                      >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      >> **
                                      >>
                                      >>
                                      >> When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark shows up at
                                      >> all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error message
                                      >> saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click yes, and
                                      >> still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work since it first
                                      >> showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I choose. I use
                                      >> Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at all?
                                      >>
                                      >> I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here. Thank you for
                                      >> the help and advice.
                                      >>
                                      >> >________________________________
                                      >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                      >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                      >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                      >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                      >> >
                                      >> >
                                      >> >
                                      >> >Hi Bob,
                                      >> >
                                      >> >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding" menu and
                                      >> >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it. Next I typed a
                                      >> >simple line such as the following...
                                      >> >
                                      >> >div#test
                                      >> >
                                      >> >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to this...
                                      >> >
                                      >> ><div id="test"></div>
                                      >> >
                                      >> >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line, immediately
                                      >> >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its magic. If I
                                      >> >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen doesn't do
                                      >> its
                                      >> >thing.
                                      >> >
                                      >> >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and repeated
                                      >> >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I wanted to
                                      >> >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked. I checked
                                      >> >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                      >> >
                                      >> >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and
                                      >> re-install
                                      >> >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                      >> >-John
                                      >> >
                                      >> >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                      >> >
                                      >> >> **
                                      >> >>
                                      >> >>
                                      >> >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says something
                                      >> >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it on?" I
                                      >> click
                                      >> >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just the
                                      >> obvious?
                                      >> >> er?? ;)
                                      >> >>
                                      >> >> >________________________________
                                      >> >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                      >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                      >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                      >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                      >> >> >
                                      >> >> >
                                      >> >> >
                                      >> >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                      >> >> >
                                      >> >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                      >> >> >
                                      >> >> >>
                                      >> >> >>
                                      >> >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                      >> >> >>
                                      >> >> >> >________________________________
                                      >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                                      >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                      >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                      >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                      >> >> >> >
                                      >> >> >> >
                                      >> >> >> >
                                      >> >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the
                                      >> >> shortcuts
                                      >> >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                      >> >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                      >> >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                      >> >> >> >>
                                      >> >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...
                                      >> >> >> >>
                                      >> >> >> >>
                                      >> >> >> >> --
                                      >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                                      >> >> >> >>
                                      >> >> >> >>
                                      >> >> >> >>
                                      >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                                      >> >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                      >> >> >> >>
                                      >> >> >> >>
                                      >> >> >> >>> **
                                      >> >> >> >>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>
                                      >> >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                      >> >> >> >>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                      >> >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                      >> >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com
                                      >> >
                                      >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                      >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                      >> >> >> >>>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen
                                      >> >> >> Coding. I
                                      >> >> >> >>>>
                                      >> >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                                      >> >> >> explanation.
                                      >> >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                      >> >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                      >> >> >> >>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                      >> >> >> >>>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                                      >> >> >> snippets of
                                      >> >> >> >>>>
                                      >> >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For
                                      >> >> >> example,
                                      >> >> >> >>> the sequence
                                      >> >> >> >>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                      >> >> >> >>>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> expands into
                                      >> >> >> >>>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> <div id="page">
                                      >> >> >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                                      >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> </ul>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> </div>
                                      >> >> >> >>>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
                                      >> >> >> >>>>
                                      >> >> >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
                                      >> >> >> >>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> </excerpt>
                                      >> >> >> >>>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't
                                      >> handle
                                      >> >> >> this
                                      >> >> >> >>>>
                                      >> >> >> >>> stuff.
                                      >> >> >> >>>
                                      >> >> >> >>>>
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                                      >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------
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                                    • Daniel Gibby
                                      Maybe it only shows up for registered users? Do you have a paid registration put into your EditPlus? ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                      Message 18 of 29 , May 10 8:53 AM
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                                        Maybe it only shows up for registered users? Do you have a paid
                                        registration put into your EditPlus?

                                        On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:

                                        > **
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Well, I did a fresh install with default everything and it still doesn't
                                        > show the checkmark for the Zen Coding. I did notice this file in the syntax
                                        > files directory: zen_coding_epp.js
                                        >
                                        > Am I supposed to make a user tool for that or anything?
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > >________________________________
                                        > > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                        > >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                        > >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:48 AM
                                        >
                                        > >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any faulty
                                        > >syntax. For example, div*3p doesn't do anything at all when you press the
                                        > >Ctrl-e shortcut key, but div*3>p does work to create the three <div> tags
                                        > >each containing a paragraph. No warning or anything, just nothing happens
                                        > >at all if the syntax, or cursor position for that matter, isn't correct.
                                        > >However, it sounds like you're not seeing the checkmark in the menu, so
                                        > >that seems like a different issue. Do you have your own modifications to
                                        > >the settings, such that you copy over the new settings files after an
                                        > >install of EditPlus? I do this, but I didn't have the problem you're
                                        > >seeing. Perhaps you should try the zen immediately after a fresh install,
                                        > >before you replace any of the settings and other files.
                                        > >
                                        > >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                        > >
                                        > >> **
                                        > >>
                                        > >>
                                        > >> When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark shows up at
                                        > >> all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error
                                        > message
                                        > >> saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click yes, and
                                        > >> still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work since it
                                        > first
                                        > >> showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I choose. I use
                                        > >> Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at all?
                                        > >>
                                        > >> I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here. Thank you
                                        > for
                                        > >> the help and advice.
                                        > >>
                                        > >> >________________________________
                                        > >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                        > >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                        > >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                        > >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> >Hi Bob,
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding" menu and
                                        > >> >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it. Next I
                                        > typed a
                                        > >> >simple line such as the following...
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> >div#test
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to this...
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> ><div id="test"></div>
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line,
                                        > immediately
                                        > >> >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its magic. If
                                        > I
                                        > >> >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen doesn't do
                                        > >> its
                                        > >> >thing.
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and
                                        > repeated
                                        > >> >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I
                                        > wanted to
                                        > >> >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked. I
                                        > checked
                                        > >> >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and
                                        > >> re-install
                                        > >> >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                        > >> >-John
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                        > wrote:
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> >> **
                                        > >> >>
                                        > >> >>
                                        > >> >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says
                                        > something
                                        > >> >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it on?" I
                                        > >> click
                                        > >> >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just the
                                        > >> obvious?
                                        > >> >> er?? ;)
                                        > >> >>
                                        > >> >> >________________________________
                                        > >> >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                        > >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                        > >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                        > >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                        > >> >> >
                                        > >> >> >
                                        > >> >> >
                                        > >> >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                        > >> >> >
                                        > >> >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                        > >> >> >
                                        > >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                        > >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >________________________________
                                        > >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                                        > >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                        > >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                        > >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                        > >> >> >> >
                                        > >> >> >> >
                                        > >> >> >> >
                                        > >> >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the
                                        > >> >> shortcuts
                                        > >> >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                        > >> >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                        > >> >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these
                                        > shortcuts...
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >> --
                                        > >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                                        > >> >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >>> **
                                        > >> >> >> >>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                        > >> >> >> >>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                        > >> >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                        > editplus%40yahoogroups.com
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen
                                        > >> >> >> Coding. I
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                                        > >> >> >> explanation.
                                        > >> >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                        > >> >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                        > >> >> >> >>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                                        > >> >> >> snippets of
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code.
                                        > For
                                        > >> >> >> example,
                                        > >> >> >> >>> the sequence
                                        > >> >> >> >>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> expands into
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> <div id="page">
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> </ul>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> </div>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other
                                        > complex
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded
                                        > code.
                                        > >> >> >> >>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> </excerpt>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't
                                        > >> handle
                                        > >> >> >> this
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>> stuff.
                                        > >> >> >> >>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                        > >> >> >> >>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>>
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >> http://www.editplus.comYahoo! Groups Links
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >>
                                        > >> >> >> >
                                        > >> >> >> >
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                                        > >> >> >> >
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                                        > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                        > >> >> >>
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                                        > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                        > >> >>
                                        > >> >>
                                        > >> >>
                                        > >> >
                                        > >> >--
                                        > >> >JohnClarkCraig.com, Sun-Track.com
                                        > >> >LucidLights.com, LucidBrake.com
                                        > >> >WritersSummit.com, BooksToBelieveIn.com, Getting-Published.com
                                        > >> >ForTheWealthOfAll.com, Passivillionaire.com
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                                        > >>
                                        > >>
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                                        > >
                                        > >--
                                        > >JohnClarkCraig.com, Sun-Track.com
                                        > >LucidLights.com, LucidBrake.com
                                        > >WritersSummit.com, BooksToBelieveIn.com, Getting-Published.com
                                        > >ForTheWealthOfAll.com, Passivillionaire.com
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                                      • Bob Hindal
                                        Yes, sir, legally registered. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                        Message 19 of 29 , May 10 8:55 AM
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                                          Yes, sir, legally registered.




                                          >________________________________
                                          > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                          >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                          >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:53 AM
                                          >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                          >
                                          >Maybe it only shows up for registered users? Do you have a paid
                                          >registration put into your EditPlus?
                                          >
                                          >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          >> **
                                          >>
                                          >>
                                          >> Well, I did a fresh install with default everything and it still doesn't
                                          >> show the checkmark for the Zen Coding. I did notice this file in the syntax
                                          >> files directory: zen_coding_epp.js
                                          >>
                                          >> Am I supposed to make a user tool for that or anything?
                                          >>
                                          >>
                                          >> >________________________________
                                          >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                          >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                          >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:48 AM
                                          >>
                                          >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                          >> >
                                          >> >
                                          >> >
                                          >> >I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any faulty
                                          >> >syntax. For example, div*3p doesn't do anything at all when you press the
                                          >> >Ctrl-e shortcut key, but div*3>p does work to create the three <div> tags
                                          >> >each containing a paragraph. No warning or anything, just nothing happens
                                          >> >at all if the syntax, or cursor position for that matter, isn't correct.
                                          >> >However, it sounds like you're not seeing the checkmark in the menu, so
                                          >> >that seems like a different issue. Do you have your own modifications to
                                          >> >the settings, such that you copy over the new settings files after an
                                          >> >install of EditPlus? I do this, but I didn't have the problem you're
                                          >> >seeing. Perhaps you should try the zen immediately after a fresh install,
                                          >> >before you replace any of the settings and other files.
                                          >> >
                                          >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                          >> >
                                          >> >> **
                                          >> >>
                                          >> >>
                                          >> >> When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark shows up at
                                          >> >> all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error
                                          >> message
                                          >> >> saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click yes, and
                                          >> >> still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work since it
                                          >> first
                                          >> >> showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I choose. I use
                                          >> >> Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at all?
                                          >> >>
                                          >> >> I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here. Thank you
                                          >> for
                                          >> >> the help and advice.
                                          >> >>
                                          >> >> >________________________________
                                          >> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                          >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                          >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                          >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >Hi Bob,
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding" menu and
                                          >> >> >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it. Next I
                                          >> typed a
                                          >> >> >simple line such as the following...
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >div#test
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to this...
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> ><div id="test"></div>
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line,
                                          >> immediately
                                          >> >> >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its magic. If
                                          >> I
                                          >> >> >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen doesn't do
                                          >> >> its
                                          >> >> >thing.
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and
                                          >> repeated
                                          >> >> >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I
                                          >> wanted to
                                          >> >> >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked. I
                                          >> checked
                                          >> >> >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and
                                          >> >> re-install
                                          >> >> >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                          >> >> >-John
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                          >> wrote:
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> **
                                          >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says
                                          >> something
                                          >> >> >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it on?" I
                                          >> >> click
                                          >> >> >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just the
                                          >> >> obvious?
                                          >> >> >> er?? ;)
                                          >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >________________________________
                                          >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                          >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                          >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                          >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                          >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                          >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                          >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                          >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                          >> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                          >> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                          >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                          >> >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the
                                          >> >> >> shortcuts
                                          >> >> >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                          >> >> >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                          >> >> >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these
                                          >> shortcuts...
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >> --
                                          >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                                          >> >> >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>> **
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                          >> >> >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                          >> editplus%40yahoogroups.com
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen
                                          >> >> >> >> Coding. I
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                                          >> >> >> >> explanation.
                                          >> >> >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                          >> >> >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                                          >> >> >> >> snippets of
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code.
                                          >> For
                                          >> >> >> >> example,
                                          >> >> >> >> >>> the sequence
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> expands into
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> <div id="page">
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> </ul>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> </div>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other
                                          >> complex
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded
                                          >> code.
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> </excerpt>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't
                                          >> >> handle
                                          >> >> >> >> this
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>> stuff.
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >> http://www.editplus.comYahoo! Groups Links
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                          >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >> >
                                          >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                          >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >>
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >--
                                          >> >> >JohnClarkCraig.com, Sun-Track.com
                                          >> >> >LucidLights.com, LucidBrake.com
                                          >> >> >WritersSummit.com, BooksToBelieveIn.com, Getting-Published.com
                                          >> >> >ForTheWealthOfAll.com, Passivillionaire.com
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >> >
                                          >> >>
                                          >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                          >> >>
                                          >> >>
                                          >> >>
                                          >> >
                                          >> >--
                                          >> >JohnClarkCraig.com, Sun-Track.com
                                          >> >LucidLights.com, LucidBrake.com
                                          >> >WritersSummit.com, BooksToBelieveIn.com, Getting-Published.com
                                          >> >ForTheWealthOfAll.com, Passivillionaire.com
                                          >> >
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                                          >>
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                                        • Daniel Gibby
                                          Me too, so that isn t it. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                          Message 20 of 29 , May 10 8:57 AM
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                                            Me too, so that isn't it.

                                            On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:

                                            > **
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Yes, sir, legally registered.
                                            >
                                            > >________________________________
                                            > > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                            > >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                            > >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:53 AM
                                            >
                                            > >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                            > >
                                            > >Maybe it only shows up for registered users? Do you have a paid
                                            > >registration put into your EditPlus?
                                            > >
                                            > >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                            > >
                                            > >> **
                                            >
                                            > >>
                                            > >>
                                            > >> Well, I did a fresh install with default everything and it still doesn't
                                            > >> show the checkmark for the Zen Coding. I did notice this file in the
                                            > syntax
                                            > >> files directory: zen_coding_epp.js
                                            > >>
                                            > >> Am I supposed to make a user tool for that or anything?
                                            > >>
                                            > >>
                                            > >> >________________________________
                                            > >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                            > >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                            > >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:48 AM
                                            > >>
                                            > >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                            > >> >
                                            > >> >
                                            > >> >
                                            > >> >I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any faulty
                                            > >> >syntax. For example, div*3p doesn't do anything at all when you press
                                            > the
                                            > >> >Ctrl-e shortcut key, but div*3>p does work to create the three <div>
                                            > tags
                                            > >> >each containing a paragraph. No warning or anything, just nothing
                                            > happens
                                            > >> >at all if the syntax, or cursor position for that matter, isn't
                                            > correct.
                                            > >> >However, it sounds like you're not seeing the checkmark in the menu, so
                                            > >> >that seems like a different issue. Do you have your own modifications
                                            > to
                                            > >> >the settings, such that you copy over the new settings files after an
                                            > >> >install of EditPlus? I do this, but I didn't have the problem you're
                                            > >> >seeing. Perhaps you should try the zen immediately after a fresh
                                            > install,
                                            > >> >before you replace any of the settings and other files.
                                            > >> >
                                            > >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                            > wrote:
                                            > >> >
                                            > >> >> **
                                            > >> >>
                                            > >> >>
                                            > >> >> When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark shows up
                                            > at
                                            > >> >> all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error
                                            > >> message
                                            > >> >> saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click yes,
                                            > and
                                            > >> >> still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work since it
                                            > >> first
                                            > >> >> showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I choose. I
                                            > use
                                            > >> >> Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at all?
                                            > >> >>
                                            > >> >> I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here. Thank
                                            > you
                                            > >> for
                                            > >> >> the help and advice.
                                            > >> >>
                                            > >> >> >________________________________
                                            > >> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                            > >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                            > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                            > >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >Hi Bob,
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding" menu
                                            > and
                                            > >> >> >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it. Next I
                                            > >> typed a
                                            > >> >> >simple line such as the following...
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >div#test
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to this...
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> ><div id="test"></div>
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line,
                                            > >> immediately
                                            > >> >> >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its magic.
                                            > If
                                            > >> I
                                            > >> >> >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen
                                            > doesn't do
                                            > >> >> its
                                            > >> >> >thing.
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and
                                            > >> repeated
                                            > >> >> >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I
                                            > >> wanted to
                                            > >> >> >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked. I
                                            > >> checked
                                            > >> >> >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and
                                            > >> >> re-install
                                            > >> >> >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                            > >> >> >-John
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                            > >> wrote:
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> **
                                            > >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says
                                            > >> something
                                            > >> >> >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it on?"
                                            > I
                                            > >> >> click
                                            > >> >> >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just the
                                            > >> >> obvious?
                                            > >> >> >> er?? ;)
                                            > >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >________________________________
                                            > >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                            > >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                            > >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                            > >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                            > >> >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                            > >> >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                            > >> >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                            > >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                            > >> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de
                                            > >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                            > editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                            > >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                            > >> >> >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the
                                            > >> >> >> shortcuts
                                            > >> >> >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                            > >> >> >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                            > >> >> >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these
                                            > >> shortcuts...
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >> --
                                            > >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <
                                            > boofo131@...
                                            > >> >> >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>> **
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                            > >> >> >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                            > >> editplus%40yahoogroups.com
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called
                                            > Zen
                                            > >> >> >> >> Coding. I
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                                            > >> >> >> >> explanation.
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                            > >> >> >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                                            > >> >> >> >> snippets of
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML
                                            > code.
                                            > >> For
                                            > >> >> >> >> example,
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>> the sequence
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> expands into
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> <div id="page">
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> </ul>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> </div>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other
                                            > >> complex
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded
                                            > >> code.
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> </excerpt>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't
                                            > >> >> handle
                                            > >> >> >> >> this
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>> stuff.
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>>
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                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >> http://www.editplus.comYahoo! Groups Links
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                            > >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> >
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                                            > >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                            > >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >>
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >--
                                            > >> >> >JohnClarkCraig.com, Sun-Track.com
                                            > >> >> >LucidLights.com, LucidBrake.com
                                            > >> >> >WritersSummit.com, BooksToBelieveIn.com, Getting-Published.com
                                            > >> >> >ForTheWealthOfAll.com, Passivillionaire.com
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >
                                            > >> >> >
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                                            > >> >>
                                            > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                            > >> >>
                                            > >> >>
                                            > >> >>
                                            > >> >
                                            > >> >--
                                            > >> >JohnClarkCraig.com, Sun-Track.com
                                            > >> >LucidLights.com, LucidBrake.com
                                            > >> >WritersSummit.com, BooksToBelieveIn.com, Getting-Published.com
                                            > >> >ForTheWealthOfAll.com, Passivillionaire.com
                                            > >> >
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                                            > >>
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                                            > >
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                                            > >
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                                            > >
                                            > >http://www.editplus.comYahoo! Groups Links
                                            > >
                                            > >
                                            > >
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                                          • Daniel Gibby
                                            You have EditPlus 3.41, right? ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                            Message 21 of 29 , May 10 8:57 AM
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                                              You have EditPlus 3.41, right?

                                              On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>wrote:

                                              > Me too, so that isn't it.
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                              >
                                              >> **
                                              >>
                                              >>
                                              >> Yes, sir, legally registered.
                                              >>
                                              >> >________________________________
                                              >> > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                              >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                              >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:53 AM
                                              >>
                                              >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                              >> >
                                              >> >Maybe it only shows up for registered users? Do you have a paid
                                              >> >registration put into your EditPlus?
                                              >> >
                                              >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                              >> >
                                              >> >> **
                                              >>
                                              >> >>
                                              >> >>
                                              >> >> Well, I did a fresh install with default everything and it still
                                              >> doesn't
                                              >> >> show the checkmark for the Zen Coding. I did notice this file in the
                                              >> syntax
                                              >> >> files directory: zen_coding_epp.js
                                              >> >>
                                              >> >> Am I supposed to make a user tool for that or anything?
                                              >> >>
                                              >> >>
                                              >> >> >________________________________
                                              >> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                              >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                              >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:48 AM
                                              >> >>
                                              >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                              >> >> >
                                              >> >> >
                                              >> >> >
                                              >> >> >I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any faulty
                                              >> >> >syntax. For example, div*3p doesn't do anything at all when you press
                                              >> the
                                              >> >> >Ctrl-e shortcut key, but div*3>p does work to create the three <div>
                                              >> tags
                                              >> >> >each containing a paragraph. No warning or anything, just nothing
                                              >> happens
                                              >> >> >at all if the syntax, or cursor position for that matter, isn't
                                              >> correct.
                                              >> >> >However, it sounds like you're not seeing the checkmark in the menu,
                                              >> so
                                              >> >> >that seems like a different issue. Do you have your own modifications
                                              >> to
                                              >> >> >the settings, such that you copy over the new settings files after an
                                              >> >> >install of EditPlus? I do this, but I didn't have the problem you're
                                              >> >> >seeing. Perhaps you should try the zen immediately after a fresh
                                              >> install,
                                              >> >> >before you replace any of the settings and other files.
                                              >> >> >
                                              >> >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                              >> wrote:
                                              >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> **
                                              >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark shows
                                              >> up at
                                              >> >> >> all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error
                                              >> >> message
                                              >> >> >> saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click yes,
                                              >> and
                                              >> >> >> still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work since it
                                              >> >> first
                                              >> >> >> showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I choose.
                                              >> I use
                                              >> >> >> Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at all?
                                              >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here. Thank
                                              >> you
                                              >> >> for
                                              >> >> >> the help and advice.
                                              >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >________________________________
                                              >> >> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                              >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                              >> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                              >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >Hi Bob,
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding" menu
                                              >> and
                                              >> >> >> >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it. Next I
                                              >> >> typed a
                                              >> >> >> >simple line such as the following...
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >div#test
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to this...
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> ><div id="test"></div>
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line,
                                              >> >> immediately
                                              >> >> >> >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its
                                              >> magic. If
                                              >> >> I
                                              >> >> >> >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen
                                              >> doesn't do
                                              >> >> >> its
                                              >> >> >> >thing.
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and
                                              >> >> repeated
                                              >> >> >> >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I
                                              >> >> wanted to
                                              >> >> >> >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked. I
                                              >> >> checked
                                              >> >> >> >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and
                                              >> >> >> re-install
                                              >> >> >> >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                              >> >> >> >-John
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                              >> >> wrote:
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> **
                                              >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says
                                              >> >> something
                                              >> >> >> >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it
                                              >> on?" I
                                              >> >> >> click
                                              >> >> >> >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just the
                                              >> >> >> obvious?
                                              >> >> >> >> er?? ;)
                                              >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                              >> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                              >> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                              >> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                              >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                              >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                              >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                              >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                              >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                              >> >> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de
                                              >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                              >> editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all
                                              >> the
                                              >> >> >> >> shortcuts
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                              >> >> >> >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these
                                              >> >> shortcuts...
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >> --
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <
                                              >> boofo131@...
                                              >> >> >> >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>> **
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                              >> >> >> >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                              >> >> editplus%40yahoogroups.com
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called
                                              >> Zen
                                              >> >> >> >> >> Coding. I
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                                              >> >> >> >> >> explanation.
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                              >> >> >> >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand
                                              >> small
                                              >> >> >> >> >> snippets of
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML
                                              >> code.
                                              >> >> For
                                              >> >> >> >> >> example,
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>> the sequence
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> expands into
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> <div id="page">
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> </ul>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> </div>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other
                                              >> >> complex
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with
                                              >> expanded
                                              >> >> code.
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> </excerpt>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain
                                              >> couldn't
                                              >> >> >> handle
                                              >> >> >> >> >> this
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>> stuff.
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.editplus.comYahoo! Groups Links
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                              >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                              >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >--
                                              >> >> >> >JohnClarkCraig.com, Sun-Track.com
                                              >> >> >> >LucidLights.com, LucidBrake.com
                                              >> >> >> >WritersSummit.com, BooksToBelieveIn.com, Getting-Published.com
                                              >> >> >> >ForTheWealthOfAll.com, Passivillionaire.com
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >> >
                                              >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                              >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >>
                                              >> >> >
                                              >> >> >--
                                              >> >> >JohnClarkCraig.com, Sun-Track.com
                                              >> >> >LucidLights.com, LucidBrake.com
                                              >> >> >WritersSummit.com, BooksToBelieveIn.com, Getting-Published.com
                                              >> >> >ForTheWealthOfAll.com, Passivillionaire.com
                                              >> >> >
                                              >> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                              >> >> >
                                              >> >> >
                                              >> >> >
                                              >> >> >
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                                              >> >>
                                              >> >>
                                              >> >>
                                              >> >
                                              >> >
                                              >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                              >> >
                                              >> >
                                              >> >
                                              >> >------------------------------------
                                              >> >
                                              >> >http://www.editplus.comYahoo! Groups Links
                                              >> >
                                              >> >
                                              >> >
                                              >> >
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                                            • Bob Hindal
                                              Yes. I was using the betas as he released them and then upgraded to the final when he released that also. It really has me puzzled as I have never had any
                                              Message 22 of 29 , May 10 9:01 AM
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                                                Yes. I was using the betas as he released them and then upgraded to the final when he released that also. It really has me puzzled as I have never had any issues with EditPlus.




                                                >________________________________
                                                > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                                >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:57 AM
                                                >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                >
                                                >You have EditPlus 3.41, right?
                                                >
                                                >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>wrote:
                                                >
                                                >> Me too, so that isn't it.
                                                >>
                                                >>
                                                >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                                >>
                                                >>> **
                                                >>>
                                                >>>
                                                >>> Yes, sir, legally registered.
                                                >>>
                                                >>> >________________________________
                                                >>> > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                                >>> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                >>> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:53 AM
                                                >>>
                                                >>> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                >>> >
                                                >>> >Maybe it only shows up for registered users? Do you have a paid
                                                >>> >registration put into your EditPlus?
                                                >>> >
                                                >>> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                                >>> >
                                                >>> >> **
                                                >>>
                                                >>> >>
                                                >>> >>
                                                >>> >> Well, I did a fresh install with default everything and it still
                                                >>> doesn't
                                                >>> >> show the checkmark for the Zen Coding. I did notice this file in the
                                                >>> syntax
                                                >>> >> files directory: zen_coding_epp.js
                                                >>> >>
                                                >>> >> Am I supposed to make a user tool for that or anything?
                                                >>> >>
                                                >>> >>
                                                >>> >> >________________________________
                                                >>> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                >>> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                >>> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:48 AM
                                                >>> >>
                                                >>> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                >>> >> >
                                                >>> >> >
                                                >>> >> >
                                                >>> >> >I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any faulty
                                                >>> >> >syntax. For example, div*3p doesn't do anything at all when you press
                                                >>> the
                                                >>> >> >Ctrl-e shortcut key, but div*3>p does work to create the three <div>
                                                >>> tags
                                                >>> >> >each containing a paragraph. No warning or anything, just nothing
                                                >>> happens
                                                >>> >> >at all if the syntax, or cursor position for that matter, isn't
                                                >>> correct.
                                                >>> >> >However, it sounds like you're not seeing the checkmark in the menu,
                                                >>> so
                                                >>> >> >that seems like a different issue. Do you have your own modifications
                                                >>> to
                                                >>> >> >the settings, such that you copy over the new settings files after an
                                                >>> >> >install of EditPlus? I do this, but I didn't have the problem you're
                                                >>> >> >seeing. Perhaps you should try the zen immediately after a fresh
                                                >>> install,
                                                >>> >> >before you replace any of the settings and other files.
                                                >>> >> >
                                                >>> >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                                >>> wrote:
                                                >>> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> **
                                                >>> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark shows
                                                >>> up at
                                                >>> >> >> all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error
                                                >>> >> message
                                                >>> >> >> saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click yes,
                                                >>> and
                                                >>> >> >> still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work since it
                                                >>> >> first
                                                >>> >> >> showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I choose.
                                                >>> I use
                                                >>> >> >> Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at all?
                                                >>> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here. Thank
                                                >>> you
                                                >>> >> for
                                                >>> >> >> the help and advice.
                                                >>> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >________________________________
                                                >>> >> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                >>> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                >>> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                                >>> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >Hi Bob,
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding" menu
                                                >>> and
                                                >>> >> >> >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it. Next I
                                                >>> >> typed a
                                                >>> >> >> >simple line such as the following...
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >div#test
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to this...
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> ><div id="test"></div>
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line,
                                                >>> >> immediately
                                                >>> >> >> >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its
                                                >>> magic. If
                                                >>> >> I
                                                >>> >> >> >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen
                                                >>> doesn't do
                                                >>> >> >> its
                                                >>> >> >> >thing.
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and
                                                >>> >> repeated
                                                >>> >> >> >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I
                                                >>> >> wanted to
                                                >>> >> >> >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked. I
                                                >>> >> checked
                                                >>> >> >> >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and
                                                >>> >> >> re-install
                                                >>> >> >> >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                                >>> >> >> >-John
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                                >>> >> wrote:
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >> **
                                                >>> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says
                                                >>> >> something
                                                >>> >> >> >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it
                                                >>> on?" I
                                                >>> >> >> click
                                                >>> >> >> >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just the
                                                >>> >> >> obvious?
                                                >>> >> >> >> er?? ;)
                                                >>> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                                >>> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                >>> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                                >>> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                >>> >> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                                >>> >> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                                >>> >> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                                >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de
                                                >>> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                                >>> editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all
                                                >>> the
                                                >>> >> >> >> shortcuts
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these
                                                >>> >> shortcuts...
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >> --
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <
                                                >>> boofo131@...
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>> **
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                                >>> >> editplus%40yahoogroups.com
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called
                                                >>> Zen
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> Coding. I
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> explanation.
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand
                                                >>> small
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> snippets of
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML
                                                >>> code.
                                                >>> >> For
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> example,
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>> the sequence
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> expands into
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <div id="page">
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </ul>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </div>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other
                                                >>> >> complex
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with
                                                >>> expanded
                                                >>> >> code.
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </excerpt>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain
                                                >>> couldn't
                                                >>> >> >> handle
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> this
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>> stuff.
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
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                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.editplus.comYahoo! Groups Links
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
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                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
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                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >> >> >
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                                                >>> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                                >>> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >>
                                                >>> >> >> >
                                                >>> >> >> >--
                                                >>> >> >> >JohnClarkCraig.com, Sun-Track.com
                                                >>> >> >> >LucidLights.com, LucidBrake.com
                                                >>> >> >> >WritersSummit.com, BooksToBelieveIn.com, Getting-Published.com
                                                >>> >> >> >ForTheWealthOfAll.com, Passivillionaire.com
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                                                >>> >> >--
                                                >>> >> >JohnClarkCraig.com, Sun-Track.com
                                                >>> >> >LucidLights.com, LucidBrake.com
                                                >>> >> >WritersSummit.com, BooksToBelieveIn.com, Getting-Published.com
                                                >>> >> >ForTheWealthOfAll.com, Passivillionaire.com
                                                >>> >> >
                                                >>> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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                                                >>> >------------------------------------
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                                              • John C Craig
                                                The zen_coding_epp.js file that ships with EditPlus is javascript code. I m wondering how the engine for running that code was added to EditPlus, or how it
                                                Message 23 of 29 , May 10 9:18 AM
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                                                  The zen_coding_epp.js file that ships with EditPlus is javascript code. I'm
                                                  wondering how the engine for running that code was added to EditPlus, or
                                                  how it connects to it. Just a really wild shot, but do you have javascript
                                                  disabled in your browser? Does anyone know how this javascript gets run
                                                  inside EditPlus to do the zen coding thing?

                                                  On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:

                                                  > **
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > Yes. I was using the betas as he released them and then upgraded to the
                                                  > final when he released that also. It really has me puzzled as I have never
                                                  > had any issues with EditPlus.
                                                  >
                                                  > >________________________________
                                                  > > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                                  > >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:57 AM
                                                  > >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                  > >
                                                  > >You have EditPlus 3.41, right?
                                                  > >
                                                  > >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...
                                                  > >wrote:
                                                  > >
                                                  > >> Me too, so that isn't it.
                                                  > >>
                                                  > >>
                                                  > >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                                  > >>
                                                  > >>> **
                                                  > >>>
                                                  > >>>
                                                  > >>> Yes, sir, legally registered.
                                                  > >>>
                                                  > >>> >________________________________
                                                  > >>> > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                                  > >>> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > >>> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:53 AM
                                                  > >>>
                                                  > >>> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                  > >>> >
                                                  > >>> >Maybe it only shows up for registered users? Do you have a paid
                                                  > >>> >registration put into your EditPlus?
                                                  > >>> >
                                                  > >>> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                                  > wrote:
                                                  > >>> >
                                                  > >>> >> **
                                                  > >>>
                                                  > >>> >>
                                                  > >>> >>
                                                  > >>> >> Well, I did a fresh install with default everything and it still
                                                  > >>> doesn't
                                                  > >>> >> show the checkmark for the Zen Coding. I did notice this file in the
                                                  > >>> syntax
                                                  > >>> >> files directory: zen_coding_epp.js
                                                  > >>> >>
                                                  > >>> >> Am I supposed to make a user tool for that or anything?
                                                  > >>> >>
                                                  > >>> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >________________________________
                                                  > >>> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                  > >>> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > >>> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:48 AM
                                                  > >>> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                  > >>> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any
                                                  > faulty
                                                  > >>> >> >syntax. For example, div*3p doesn't do anything at all when you
                                                  > press
                                                  > >>> the
                                                  > >>> >> >Ctrl-e shortcut key, but div*3>p does work to create the three
                                                  > <div>
                                                  > >>> tags
                                                  > >>> >> >each containing a paragraph. No warning or anything, just nothing
                                                  > >>> happens
                                                  > >>> >> >at all if the syntax, or cursor position for that matter, isn't
                                                  > >>> correct.
                                                  > >>> >> >However, it sounds like you're not seeing the checkmark in the
                                                  > menu,
                                                  > >>> so
                                                  > >>> >> >that seems like a different issue. Do you have your own
                                                  > modifications
                                                  > >>> to
                                                  > >>> >> >the settings, such that you copy over the new settings files after
                                                  > an
                                                  > >>> >> >install of EditPlus? I do this, but I didn't have the problem
                                                  > you're
                                                  > >>> >> >seeing. Perhaps you should try the zen immediately after a fresh
                                                  > >>> install,
                                                  > >>> >> >before you replace any of the settings and other files.
                                                  > >>> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                                  > >>> wrote:
                                                  > >>> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> **
                                                  > >>> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark shows
                                                  > >>> up at
                                                  > >>> >> >> all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error
                                                  > >>> >> message
                                                  > >>> >> >> saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click
                                                  > yes,
                                                  > >>> and
                                                  > >>> >> >> still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work since
                                                  > it
                                                  > >>> >> first
                                                  > >>> >> >> showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I
                                                  > choose.
                                                  > >>> I use
                                                  > >>> >> >> Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at all?
                                                  > >>> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here.
                                                  > Thank
                                                  > >>> you
                                                  > >>> >> for
                                                  > >>> >> >> the help and advice.
                                                  > >>> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >________________________________
                                                  > >>> >> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > >>> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                                  > >>> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                  > >>> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >Hi Bob,
                                                  > >>> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding"
                                                  > menu
                                                  > >>> and
                                                  > >>> >> >> >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it.
                                                  > Next I
                                                  > >>> >> typed a
                                                  > >>> >> >> >simple line such as the following...
                                                  > >>> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >div#test
                                                  > >>> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to
                                                  > this...
                                                  > >>> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> ><div id="test"></div>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line,
                                                  > >>> >> immediately
                                                  > >>> >> >> >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its
                                                  > >>> magic. If
                                                  > >>> >> I
                                                  > >>> >> >> >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen
                                                  > >>> doesn't do
                                                  > >>> >> >> its
                                                  > >>> >> >> >thing.
                                                  > >>> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and
                                                  > >>> >> repeated
                                                  > >>> >> >> >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I
                                                  > >>> >> wanted to
                                                  > >>> >> >> >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked.
                                                  > I
                                                  > >>> >> checked
                                                  > >>> >> >> >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                                  > >>> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and
                                                  > >>> >> >> re-install
                                                  > >>> >> >> >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                                  > >>> >> >> >-John
                                                  > >>> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                                                  > >
                                                  > >>> >> wrote:
                                                  > >>> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> **
                                                  > >>> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says
                                                  > >>> >> something
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it
                                                  > >>> on?" I
                                                  > >>> >> >> click
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just
                                                  > the
                                                  > >>> >> >> obvious?
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> er?? ;)
                                                  > >>> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:
                                                  > john%40webital.de
                                                  > >>> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                                  > >>> editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all
                                                  > >>> the
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> shortcuts
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these
                                                  > >>> >> shortcuts...
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >> --
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're
                                                  > funny.
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <
                                                  > >>> boofo131@...
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> **
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                                  > >>> >> editplus%40yahoogroups.com
                                                  > >>> >> >> >
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something
                                                  > called
                                                  > >>> Zen
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> Coding. I
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking
                                                  > for an
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> explanation.
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand
                                                  > >>> small
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> snippets of
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML
                                                  > >>> code.
                                                  > >>> >> For
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> example,
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> the sequence
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> expands into
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <div id="page">
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </ul>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </div>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several
                                                  > other
                                                  > >>> >> complex
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with
                                                  > >>> expanded
                                                  > >>> >> code.
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </excerpt>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                  > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain
                                                  > >>> couldn't
                                                  > >>> >> >> handle
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                                                • Daniel Gibby
                                                  Not sure, but that s the standard way that Zen Coding works, with a javascript file that runs. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                                  Message 24 of 29 , May 10 9:50 AM
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                                                    Not sure, but that's the standard way that Zen Coding works, with a
                                                    javascript file that runs.

                                                    On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:18 AM, John C Craig <jccraig@...> wrote:

                                                    > **
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > The zen_coding_epp.js file that ships with EditPlus is javascript code. I'm
                                                    > wondering how the engine for running that code was added to EditPlus, or
                                                    > how it connects to it. Just a really wild shot, but do you have javascript
                                                    > disabled in your browser? Does anyone know how this javascript gets run
                                                    > inside EditPlus to do the zen coding thing?
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                                    >
                                                    > > **
                                                    > >
                                                    > >
                                                    > > Yes. I was using the betas as he released them and then upgraded to the
                                                    > > final when he released that also. It really has me puzzled as I have
                                                    > never
                                                    > > had any issues with EditPlus.
                                                    > >
                                                    > > >________________________________
                                                    > > > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                                    > > >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                    > > >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:57 AM
                                                    > > >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > >You have EditPlus 3.41, right?
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...
                                                    > > >wrote:
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > >> Me too, so that isn't it.
                                                    > > >>
                                                    > > >>
                                                    > > >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                                    > wrote:
                                                    > > >>
                                                    > > >>> **
                                                    > > >>>
                                                    > > >>>
                                                    > > >>> Yes, sir, legally registered.
                                                    > > >>>
                                                    > > >>> >________________________________
                                                    > > >>> > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                                    > > >>> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                    > > >>> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:53 AM
                                                    > > >>>
                                                    > > >>> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                    > > >>> >
                                                    > > >>> >Maybe it only shows up for registered users? Do you have a paid
                                                    > > >>> >registration put into your EditPlus?
                                                    > > >>> >
                                                    > > >>> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                                    > > wrote:
                                                    > > >>> >
                                                    > > >>> >> **
                                                    > > >>>
                                                    > > >>> >>
                                                    > > >>> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> Well, I did a fresh install with default everything and it still
                                                    > > >>> doesn't
                                                    > > >>> >> show the checkmark for the Zen Coding. I did notice this file in
                                                    > the
                                                    > > >>> syntax
                                                    > > >>> >> files directory: zen_coding_epp.js
                                                    > > >>> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> Am I supposed to make a user tool for that or anything?
                                                    > > >>> >>
                                                    > > >>> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >________________________________
                                                    > > >>> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                    > > >>> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                    > > >>> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:48 AM
                                                    > > >>> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                    > > >>> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any
                                                    > > faulty
                                                    > > >>> >> >syntax. For example, div*3p doesn't do anything at all when you
                                                    > > press
                                                    > > >>> the
                                                    > > >>> >> >Ctrl-e shortcut key, but div*3>p does work to create the three
                                                    > > <div>
                                                    > > >>> tags
                                                    > > >>> >> >each containing a paragraph. No warning or anything, just nothing
                                                    > > >>> happens
                                                    > > >>> >> >at all if the syntax, or cursor position for that matter, isn't
                                                    > > >>> correct.
                                                    > > >>> >> >However, it sounds like you're not seeing the checkmark in the
                                                    > > menu,
                                                    > > >>> so
                                                    > > >>> >> >that seems like a different issue. Do you have your own
                                                    > > modifications
                                                    > > >>> to
                                                    > > >>> >> >the settings, such that you copy over the new settings files
                                                    > after
                                                    > > an
                                                    > > >>> >> >install of EditPlus? I do this, but I didn't have the problem
                                                    > > you're
                                                    > > >>> >> >seeing. Perhaps you should try the zen immediately after a fresh
                                                    > > >>> install,
                                                    > > >>> >> >before you replace any of the settings and other files.
                                                    > > >>> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                                    > > >>> wrote:
                                                    > > >>> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> **
                                                    > > >>> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark
                                                    > shows
                                                    > > >>> up at
                                                    > > >>> >> >> all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that
                                                    > error
                                                    > > >>> >> message
                                                    > > >>> >> >> saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click
                                                    > > yes,
                                                    > > >>> and
                                                    > > >>> >> >> still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work
                                                    > since
                                                    > > it
                                                    > > >>> >> first
                                                    > > >>> >> >> showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I
                                                    > > choose.
                                                    > > >>> I use
                                                    > > >>> >> >> Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at
                                                    > all?
                                                    > > >>> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here.
                                                    > > Thank
                                                    > > >>> you
                                                    > > >>> >> for
                                                    > > >>> >> >> the help and advice.
                                                    > > >>> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >________________________________
                                                    > > >>> >> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >Hi Bob,
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding"
                                                    > > menu
                                                    > > >>> and
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it.
                                                    > > Next I
                                                    > > >>> >> typed a
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >simple line such as the following...
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >div#test
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to
                                                    > > this...
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> ><div id="test"></div>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line,
                                                    > > >>> >> immediately
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its
                                                    > > >>> magic. If
                                                    > > >>> >> I
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen
                                                    > > >>> doesn't do
                                                    > > >>> >> >> its
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >thing.
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item
                                                    > and
                                                    > > >>> >> repeated
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking
                                                    > if I
                                                    > > >>> >> wanted to
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion
                                                    > worked.
                                                    > > I
                                                    > > >>> >> checked
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install
                                                    > and
                                                    > > >>> >> >> re-install
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >-John
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <
                                                    > boofo131@...
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > >>> >> wrote:
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> **
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that
                                                    > says
                                                    > > >>> >> something
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it
                                                    > > >>> on?" I
                                                    > > >>> >> >> click
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just
                                                    > > the
                                                    > > >>> >> >> obvious?
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> er?? ;)
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:
                                                    > > john%40webital.de
                                                    > > >>> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                                    > > >>> editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember
                                                    > all
                                                    > > >>> the
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> shortcuts
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these
                                                    > > >>> >> shortcuts...
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >> --
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're
                                                    > > funny.
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <
                                                    > > >>> boofo131@...
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> **
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                                    > > >>> >> editplus%40yahoogroups.com
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something
                                                    > > called
                                                    > > >>> Zen
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> Coding. I
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking
                                                    > > for an
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> explanation.
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand
                                                    > > >>> small
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> snippets of
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged
                                                    > HTML
                                                    > > >>> code.
                                                    > > >>> >> For
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> example,
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> the sequence
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> expands into
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <div id="page">
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </ul>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </div>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several
                                                    > > other
                                                    > > >>> >> complex
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with
                                                    > > >>> expanded
                                                    > > >>> >> code.
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </excerpt>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain
                                                    > > >>> couldn't
                                                    > > >>> >> >> handle
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> this
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>> stuff.
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                    > > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
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                                                  • Bob Hindal
                                                    Javascript is enabled in my browser. I use Opera 11.64 as my default browser but that shouldn t affect editing files, should it? ... [Non-text portions of this
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                                                      Javascript is enabled in my browser. I use Opera 11.64 as my default browser but that shouldn't affect editing files, should it?




                                                      >________________________________
                                                      > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                      >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:18 AM
                                                      >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                      >
                                                      >

                                                      >The zen_coding_epp.js file that ships with EditPlus is javascript code. I'm
                                                      >wondering how the engine for running that code was added to EditPlus, or
                                                      >how it connects to it. Just a really wild shot, but do you have javascript
                                                      >disabled in your browser? Does anyone know how this javascript gets run
                                                      >inside EditPlus to do the zen coding thing?
                                                      >
                                                      >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                                      >
                                                      >> **
                                                      >>
                                                      >>
                                                      >> Yes. I was using the betas as he released them and then upgraded to the
                                                      >> final when he released that also. It really has me puzzled as I have never
                                                      >> had any issues with EditPlus.
                                                      >>
                                                      >> >________________________________
                                                      >> > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                                      >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:57 AM
                                                      >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                      >> >
                                                      >> >You have EditPlus 3.41, right?
                                                      >> >
                                                      >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...
                                                      >> >wrote:
                                                      >> >
                                                      >> >> Me too, so that isn't it.
                                                      >> >>
                                                      >> >>
                                                      >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                                      >> >>
                                                      >> >>> **
                                                      >> >>>
                                                      >> >>>
                                                      >> >>> Yes, sir, legally registered.
                                                      >> >>>
                                                      >> >>> >________________________________
                                                      >> >>> > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                                      >> >>> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> >>> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:53 AM
                                                      >> >>>
                                                      >> >>> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                      >> >>> >
                                                      >> >>> >Maybe it only shows up for registered users? Do you have a paid
                                                      >> >>> >registration put into your EditPlus?
                                                      >> >>> >
                                                      >> >>> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                                      >> wrote:
                                                      >> >>> >
                                                      >> >>> >> **
                                                      >> >>>
                                                      >> >>> >>
                                                      >> >>> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> Well, I did a fresh install with default everything and it still
                                                      >> >>> doesn't
                                                      >> >>> >> show the checkmark for the Zen Coding. I did notice this file in the
                                                      >> >>> syntax
                                                      >> >>> >> files directory: zen_coding_epp.js
                                                      >> >>> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> Am I supposed to make a user tool for that or anything?
                                                      >> >>> >>
                                                      >> >>> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >________________________________
                                                      >> >>> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                      >> >>> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> >>> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:48 AM
                                                      >> >>> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                      >> >>> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any
                                                      >> faulty
                                                      >> >>> >> >syntax. For example, div*3p doesn't do anything at all when you
                                                      >> press
                                                      >> >>> the
                                                      >> >>> >> >Ctrl-e shortcut key, but div*3>p does work to create the three
                                                      >> <div>
                                                      >> >>> tags
                                                      >> >>> >> >each containing a paragraph. No warning or anything, just nothing
                                                      >> >>> happens
                                                      >> >>> >> >at all if the syntax, or cursor position for that matter, isn't
                                                      >> >>> correct.
                                                      >> >>> >> >However, it sounds like you're not seeing the checkmark in the
                                                      >> menu,
                                                      >> >>> so
                                                      >> >>> >> >that seems like a different issue. Do you have your own
                                                      >> modifications
                                                      >> >>> to
                                                      >> >>> >> >the settings, such that you copy over the new settings files after
                                                      >> an
                                                      >> >>> >> >install of EditPlus? I do this, but I didn't have the problem
                                                      >> you're
                                                      >> >>> >> >seeing. Perhaps you should try the zen immediately after a fresh
                                                      >> >>> install,
                                                      >> >>> >> >before you replace any of the settings and other files.
                                                      >> >>> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                                      >> >>> wrote:
                                                      >> >>> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> **
                                                      >> >>> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark shows
                                                      >> >>> up at
                                                      >> >>> >> >> all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error
                                                      >> >>> >> message
                                                      >> >>> >> >> saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click
                                                      >> yes,
                                                      >> >>> and
                                                      >> >>> >> >> still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work since
                                                      >> it
                                                      >> >>> >> first
                                                      >> >>> >> >> showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I
                                                      >> choose.
                                                      >> >>> I use
                                                      >> >>> >> >> Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at all?
                                                      >> >>> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here.
                                                      >> Thank
                                                      >> >>> you
                                                      >> >>> >> for
                                                      >> >>> >> >> the help and advice.
                                                      >> >>> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >________________________________
                                                      >> >>> >> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >Hi Bob,
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding"
                                                      >> menu
                                                      >> >>> and
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it.
                                                      >> Next I
                                                      >> >>> >> typed a
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >simple line such as the following...
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >div#test
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to
                                                      >> this...
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> ><div id="test"></div>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line,
                                                      >> >>> >> immediately
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its
                                                      >> >>> magic. If
                                                      >> >>> >> I
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen
                                                      >> >>> doesn't do
                                                      >> >>> >> >> its
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >thing.
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and
                                                      >> >>> >> repeated
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I
                                                      >> >>> >> wanted to
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked.
                                                      >> I
                                                      >> >>> >> checked
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and
                                                      >> >>> >> >> re-install
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >-John
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                                                      >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> wrote:
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> **
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says
                                                      >> >>> >> something
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it
                                                      >> >>> on?" I
                                                      >> >>> >> >> click
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just
                                                      >> the
                                                      >> >>> >> >> obvious?
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> er?? ;)
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:
                                                      >> john%40webital.de
                                                      >> >>> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                                      >> >>> editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all
                                                      >> >>> the
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> shortcuts
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these
                                                      >> >>> >> shortcuts...
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> --
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're
                                                      >> funny.
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <
                                                      >> >>> boofo131@...
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> **
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                                      >> >>> >> editplus%40yahoogroups.com
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something
                                                      >> called
                                                      >> >>> Zen
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> Coding. I
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking
                                                      >> for an
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> explanation.
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand
                                                      >> >>> small
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> snippets of
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML
                                                      >> >>> code.
                                                      >> >>> >> For
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> example,
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> the sequence
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> expands into
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <div id="page">
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </ul>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </div>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several
                                                      >> other
                                                      >> >>> >> complex
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with
                                                      >> >>> expanded
                                                      >> >>> >> code.
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </excerpt>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain
                                                      >> >>> couldn't
                                                      >> >>> >> >> handle
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> this
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> stuff.
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
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                                                      >> >>> >> >> >LucidLights.com, LucidBrake.com
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >WritersSummit.com, BooksToBelieveIn.com, Getting-Published.com
                                                      >> >>> >> >> >ForTheWealthOfAll.com, Passivillionaire.com
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                                                      >> >>> >> >LucidLights.com, LucidBrake.com
                                                      >> >>> >> >WritersSummit.com, BooksToBelieveIn.com, Getting-Published.com
                                                      >> >>> >> >ForTheWealthOfAll.com, Passivillionaire.com
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                                                    • John Smith
                                                      No, i m using it as default too with no problems. Does seem a bit weird! mfg Keith ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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                                                        No, i'm using it as default too with no problems.
                                                        Does seem a bit weird!

                                                        mfg
                                                        Keith

                                                        On 11 May 2012, at 07:55, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:

                                                        > Javascript is enabled in my browser. I use Opera 11.64 as my default browser but that shouldn't affect editing files, should it?
                                                        >
                                                        > >________________________________
                                                        > > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                        > >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                        > >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:18 AM
                                                        > >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > >
                                                        > >The zen_coding_epp.js file that ships with EditPlus is javascript code. I'm
                                                        > >wondering how the engine for running that code was added to EditPlus, or
                                                        > >how it connects to it. Just a really wild shot, but do you have javascript
                                                        > >disabled in your browser? Does anyone know how this javascript gets run
                                                        > >inside EditPlus to do the zen coding thing?
                                                        > >
                                                        > >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                                        > >
                                                        > >> **
                                                        > >>
                                                        > >>
                                                        > >> Yes. I was using the betas as he released them and then upgraded to the
                                                        > >> final when he released that also. It really has me puzzled as I have never
                                                        > >> had any issues with EditPlus.
                                                        > >>
                                                        > >> >________________________________
                                                        > >> > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                                        > >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                        > >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:57 AM
                                                        > >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                        > >> >
                                                        > >> >You have EditPlus 3.41, right?
                                                        > >> >
                                                        > >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...
                                                        > >> >wrote:
                                                        > >> >
                                                        > >> >> Me too, so that isn't it.
                                                        > >> >>
                                                        > >> >>
                                                        > >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                                        > >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> **
                                                        > >> >>>
                                                        > >> >>>
                                                        > >> >>> Yes, sir, legally registered.
                                                        > >> >>>
                                                        > >> >>> >________________________________
                                                        > >> >>> > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                                        > >> >>> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                        > >> >>> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:53 AM
                                                        > >> >>>
                                                        > >> >>> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                        > >> >>> >
                                                        > >> >>> >Maybe it only shows up for registered users? Do you have a paid
                                                        > >> >>> >registration put into your EditPlus?
                                                        > >> >>> >
                                                        > >> >>> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                                        > >> wrote:
                                                        > >> >>> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> **
                                                        > >> >>>
                                                        > >> >>> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> Well, I did a fresh install with default everything and it still
                                                        > >> >>> doesn't
                                                        > >> >>> >> show the checkmark for the Zen Coding. I did notice this file in the
                                                        > >> >>> syntax
                                                        > >> >>> >> files directory: zen_coding_epp.js
                                                        > >> >>> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> Am I supposed to make a user tool for that or anything?
                                                        > >> >>> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >________________________________
                                                        > >> >>> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                        > >> >>> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:48 AM
                                                        > >> >>> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                        > >> >>> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any
                                                        > >> faulty
                                                        > >> >>> >> >syntax. For example, div*3p doesn't do anything at all when you
                                                        > >> press
                                                        > >> >>> the
                                                        > >> >>> >> >Ctrl-e shortcut key, but div*3>p does work to create the three
                                                        > >> <div>
                                                        > >> >>> tags
                                                        > >> >>> >> >each containing a paragraph. No warning or anything, just nothing
                                                        > >> >>> happens
                                                        > >> >>> >> >at all if the syntax, or cursor position for that matter, isn't
                                                        > >> >>> correct.
                                                        > >> >>> >> >However, it sounds like you're not seeing the checkmark in the
                                                        > >> menu,
                                                        > >> >>> so
                                                        > >> >>> >> >that seems like a different issue. Do you have your own
                                                        > >> modifications
                                                        > >> >>> to
                                                        > >> >>> >> >the settings, such that you copy over the new settings files after
                                                        > >> an
                                                        > >> >>> >> >install of EditPlus? I do this, but I didn't have the problem
                                                        > >> you're
                                                        > >> >>> >> >seeing. Perhaps you should try the zen immediately after a fresh
                                                        > >> >>> install,
                                                        > >> >>> >> >before you replace any of the settings and other files.
                                                        > >> >>> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                                        > >> >>> wrote:
                                                        > >> >>> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> **
                                                        > >> >>> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark shows
                                                        > >> >>> up at
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error
                                                        > >> >>> >> message
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click
                                                        > >> yes,
                                                        > >> >>> and
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work since
                                                        > >> it
                                                        > >> >>> >> first
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I
                                                        > >> choose.
                                                        > >> >>> I use
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at all?
                                                        > >> >>> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here.
                                                        > >> Thank
                                                        > >> >>> you
                                                        > >> >>> >> for
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> the help and advice.
                                                        > >> >>> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >________________________________
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >Hi Bob,
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding"
                                                        > >> menu
                                                        > >> >>> and
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it.
                                                        > >> Next I
                                                        > >> >>> >> typed a
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >simple line such as the following...
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >div#test
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to
                                                        > >> this...
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> ><div id="test"></div>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line,
                                                        > >> >>> >> immediately
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its
                                                        > >> >>> magic. If
                                                        > >> >>> >> I
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen
                                                        > >> >>> doesn't do
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> its
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >thing.
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and
                                                        > >> >>> >> repeated
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I
                                                        > >> >>> >> wanted to
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked.
                                                        > >> I
                                                        > >> >>> >> checked
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> re-install
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >-John
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                                                        > >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> wrote:
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> **
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says
                                                        > >> >>> >> something
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it
                                                        > >> >>> on?" I
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> click
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just
                                                        > >> the
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> obvious?
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> er?? ;)
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:
                                                        > >> john%40webital.de
                                                        > >> >>> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                                        > >> >>> editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all
                                                        > >> >>> the
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> shortcuts
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these
                                                        > >> >>> >> shortcuts...
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> --
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're
                                                        > >> funny.
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <
                                                        > >> >>> boofo131@...
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> **
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                                        > >> >>> >> editplus%40yahoogroups.com
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something
                                                        > >> called
                                                        > >> >>> Zen
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> Coding. I
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking
                                                        > >> for an
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> explanation.
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand
                                                        > >> >>> small
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> snippets of
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                        > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML
                                                        > >> >>> code.
                                                        > >> >>> >> For
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                                                      • Bob Hindal
                                                        Just my luck to be the only one with this issue. *sigh* ;) ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                                        Message 27 of 29 , May 11 12:33 AM
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                                                          Just my luck to be the only one with this issue. *sigh* ;)




                                                          >________________________________
                                                          > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                                          >To: "editplus@yahoogroups.com" <editplus@yahoogroups.com>
                                                          >Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 2:09 AM
                                                          >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                          >
                                                          >

                                                          >No, i'm using it as default too with no problems.
                                                          >Does seem a bit weird!
                                                          >
                                                          >mfg
                                                          >Keith
                                                          >
                                                          >On 11 May 2012, at 07:55, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                                          >
                                                          >> Javascript is enabled in my browser. I use Opera 11.64 as my default browser but that shouldn't affect editing files, should it?
                                                          >>
                                                          >> >________________________________
                                                          >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                          >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                          >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:18 AM
                                                          >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                          >> >
                                                          >> >
                                                          >> >
                                                          >> >The zen_coding_epp.js file that ships with EditPlus is javascript code. I'm
                                                          >> >wondering how the engine for running that code was added to EditPlus, or
                                                          >> >how it connects to it. Just a really wild shot, but do you have javascript
                                                          >> >disabled in your browser? Does anyone know how this javascript gets run
                                                          >> >inside EditPlus to do the zen coding thing?
                                                          >> >
                                                          >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                                          >> >
                                                          >> >> **
                                                          >> >>
                                                          >> >>
                                                          >> >> Yes. I was using the betas as he released them and then upgraded to the
                                                          >> >> final when he released that also. It really has me puzzled as I have never
                                                          >> >> had any issues with EditPlus.
                                                          >> >>
                                                          >> >> >________________________________
                                                          >> >> > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                                          >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                          >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:57 AM
                                                          >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                          >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >You have EditPlus 3.41, right?
                                                          >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...
                                                          >> >> >wrote:
                                                          >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >> Me too, so that isn't it.
                                                          >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                                          >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> **
                                                          >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> Yes, sir, legally registered.
                                                          >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >________________________________
                                                          >> >> >>> > From: Daniel Gibby <daniel.gibby@...>
                                                          >> >> >>> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                          >> >> >>> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:53 AM
                                                          >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                          >> >> >>> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >Maybe it only shows up for registered users? Do you have a paid
                                                          >> >> >>> >registration put into your EditPlus?
                                                          >> >> >>> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                                          >> >> wrote:
                                                          >> >> >>> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> **
                                                          >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> Well, I did a fresh install with default everything and it still
                                                          >> >> >>> doesn't
                                                          >> >> >>> >> show the checkmark for the Zen Coding. I did notice this file in the
                                                          >> >> >>> syntax
                                                          >> >> >>> >> files directory: zen_coding_epp.js
                                                          >> >> >>> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> Am I supposed to make a user tool for that or anything?
                                                          >> >> >>> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >________________________________
                                                          >> >> >>> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:48 AM
                                                          >> >> >>> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any
                                                          >> >> faulty
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >syntax. For example, div*3p doesn't do anything at all when you
                                                          >> >> press
                                                          >> >> >>> the
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >Ctrl-e shortcut key, but div*3>p does work to create the three
                                                          >> >> <div>
                                                          >> >> >>> tags
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >each containing a paragraph. No warning or anything, just nothing
                                                          >> >> >>> happens
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >at all if the syntax, or cursor position for that matter, isn't
                                                          >> >> >>> correct.
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >However, it sounds like you're not seeing the checkmark in the
                                                          >> >> menu,
                                                          >> >> >>> so
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >that seems like a different issue. Do you have your own
                                                          >> >> modifications
                                                          >> >> >>> to
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >the settings, such that you copy over the new settings files after
                                                          >> >> an
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >install of EditPlus? I do this, but I didn't have the problem
                                                          >> >> you're
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >seeing. Perhaps you should try the zen immediately after a fresh
                                                          >> >> >>> install,
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >before you replace any of the settings and other files.
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...>
                                                          >> >> >>> wrote:
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> **
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark shows
                                                          >> >> >>> up at
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error
                                                          >> >> >>> >> message
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click
                                                          >> >> yes,
                                                          >> >> >>> and
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work since
                                                          >> >> it
                                                          >> >> >>> >> first
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I
                                                          >> >> choose.
                                                          >> >> >>> I use
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at all?
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here.
                                                          >> >> Thank
                                                          >> >> >>> you
                                                          >> >> >>> >> for
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> the help and advice.
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >________________________________
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >Hi Bob,
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding"
                                                          >> >> menu
                                                          >> >> >>> and
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it.
                                                          >> >> Next I
                                                          >> >> >>> >> typed a
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >simple line such as the following...
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >div#test
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to
                                                          >> >> this...
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> ><div id="test"></div>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line,
                                                          >> >> >>> >> immediately
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its
                                                          >> >> >>> magic. If
                                                          >> >> >>> >> I
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen
                                                          >> >> >>> doesn't do
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> its
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >thing.
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and
                                                          >> >> >>> >> repeated
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I
                                                          >> >> >>> >> wanted to
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked.
                                                          >> >> I
                                                          >> >> >>> >> checked
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> re-install
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >-John
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                                                          >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> wrote:
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> **
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says
                                                          >> >> >>> >> something
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it
                                                          >> >> >>> on?" I
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> click
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just
                                                          >> >> the
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> obvious?
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> er?? ;)
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >________________________________
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:
                                                          >> >> john%40webital.de
                                                          >> >> >>> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                                          >> >> >>> editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all
                                                          >> >> >>> the
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> shortcuts
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these
                                                          >> >> >>> >> shortcuts...
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> --
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're
                                                          >> >> funny.
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <
                                                          >> >> >>> boofo131@...
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> **
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
                                                          >> >> >>> >> editplus%40yahoogroups.com
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something
                                                          >> >> called
                                                          >> >> >>> Zen
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Coding. I
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking
                                                          >> >> for an
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> explanation.
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand
                                                          >> >> >>> small
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> snippets of
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML
                                                          >> >> >>> code.
                                                          >> >> >>> >> For
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> example,
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> the sequence
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> expands into
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <div id="page">
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </ul>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </div>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several
                                                          >> >> other
                                                          >> >> >>> >> complex
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with
                                                          >> >> >>> expanded
                                                          >> >> >>> >> code.
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> </excerpt>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain
                                                          >> >> >>> couldn't
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> handle
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> this
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> stuff.
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.editplus.comYahoo! Groups Links
                                                          >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>
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                                                        • Bob Hindal
                                                          Good news! Sangil has worked on this and released a version that FIXES my issue. I can now enable and use Zen Coding and it shows the checkmark with Use Zen
                                                          Message 28 of 29 , May 15 10:16 PM
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                                                            Good news! Sangil has worked on this and released a version that FIXES my issue. I can now enable and use Zen Coding and it shows the checkmark with "Use Zen Coding".


                                                            Thanks to all you guys who chimed in on this and tried to help. ;)




                                                            >________________________________
                                                            > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                            >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                            >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:48 AM
                                                            >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                            >
                                                            >

                                                            >I use Windows 7 64-bit too. Another thought might be with any faulty
                                                            >syntax. For example, div*3p doesn't do anything at all when you press the
                                                            >Ctrl-e shortcut key, but div*3>p does work to create the three <div> tags
                                                            >each containing a paragraph. No warning or anything, just nothing happens
                                                            >at all if the syntax, or cursor position for that matter, isn't correct.
                                                            >However, it sounds like you're not seeing the checkmark in the menu, so
                                                            >that seems like a different issue. Do you have your own modifications to
                                                            >the settings, such that you copy over the new settings files after an
                                                            >install of EditPlus? I do this, but I didn't have the problem you're
                                                            >seeing. Perhaps you should try the zen immediately after a fresh install,
                                                            >before you replace any of the settings and other files.
                                                            >
                                                            >On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                                            >
                                                            >> **
                                                            >>
                                                            >>
                                                            >> When I click the "Use Zen Coding" in the menu, no checkmark shows up at
                                                            >> all. I tried testing it as you showed and all I get is that error message
                                                            >> saying it isn't turned on, would I like to turn it on. I click yes, and
                                                            >> still no Zen Coding. I haven't been able to get it to work since it first
                                                            >> showed up in the beta, no matter what Zen Coding Profile I choose. I use
                                                            >> Windows 7 64-bit. Would that have anything to do with it at all?
                                                            >>
                                                            >> I will try a de-install and re-install and report back here. Thank you for
                                                            >> the help and advice.
                                                            >>
                                                            >> >________________________________
                                                            >> > From: John C Craig <jccraig@...>
                                                            >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                            >> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:22 AM
                                                            >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                            >> >
                                                            >> >
                                                            >> >
                                                            >> >Hi Bob,
                                                            >> >
                                                            >> >It's working for me just fine. I went to the new "Zen Coding" menu and
                                                            >> >clicked clicked "Use Zen Coding" to put a check mark by it. Next I typed a
                                                            >> >simple line such as the following...
                                                            >> >
                                                            >> >div#test
                                                            >> >
                                                            >> >and then pressed Ctl-e which allowed that text to expand to this...
                                                            >> >
                                                            >> ><div id="test"></div>
                                                            >> >
                                                            >> >I did notice that the cursor should be left on the same line, immediately
                                                            >> >after the word "test", in order for the zen coding to do its magic. If I
                                                            >> >hit Enter first, moving the cursor to the next line, the zen doesn't do
                                                            >> its
                                                            >> >thing.
                                                            >> >
                                                            >> >As one more test, I unchecked the "Use Zen Coding" menu item and repeated
                                                            >> >my experiment. I got the same message you described, asking if I wanted to
                                                            >> >enable the zen coding. I said yes and the zen expansion worked. I checked
                                                            >> >the menu item and it was once again checked.
                                                            >> >
                                                            >> >If you're still having problems, maybe you should de-install and
                                                            >> re-install
                                                            >> >the latest Edit+ version. That might help.
                                                            >> >-John
                                                            >> >
                                                            >> >On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...> wrote:
                                                            >> >
                                                            >> >> **
                                                            >> >>
                                                            >> >>
                                                            >> >> Well, I tried that and all I get is an error message that says something
                                                            >> >> like "Zen coding is not turned on, would you like to turn it on?" I
                                                            >> click
                                                            >> >> yes and no zen coding. So, maybe I am missing more than just the
                                                            >> obvious?
                                                            >> >> er?? ;)
                                                            >> >>
                                                            >> >> >________________________________
                                                            >> >> > From: John Smith <john@...>
                                                            >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com
                                                            >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:17 PM
                                                            >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                            >> >> >
                                                            >> >> >
                                                            >> >> >
                                                            >> >> >er....menu point zen coding -> use zen coding
                                                            >> >> >
                                                            >> >> >have to say its not that complicated :-)
                                                            >> >> >
                                                            >> >> >>
                                                            >> >> >>
                                                            >> >> >> How do you enable it, though?
                                                            >> >> >>
                                                            >> >> >> >________________________________
                                                            >> >> >> > From: John Smith <john@... <mailto:john%40webital.de>>
                                                            >> >> >> >To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                            >> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:33 AM
                                                            >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                            >> >> >> >
                                                            >> >> >> >
                                                            >> >> >> >
                                                            >> >> >> >its actually very cool, and even if you don't remember all the
                                                            >> >> shortcuts
                                                            >> >> >> >just knowing a few can save a lot of typing
                                                            >> >> >> >> this video demo helps you understand how it works:
                                                            >> >> >> http://vimeo.com/7405114
                                                            >> >> >> >>
                                                            >> >> >> >> looks cool but i am wondering if i can remember these shortcuts...
                                                            >> >> >> >>
                                                            >> >> >> >>
                                                            >> >> >> >> --
                                                            >> >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Ignore the typos unless they're funny.
                                                            >> >> >> >>
                                                            >> >> >> >>
                                                            >> >> >> >>
                                                            >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Bob Hindal <boofo131@...
                                                            >> >> >> <mailto:boofo131%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                                                            >> >> >> >>
                                                            >> >> >> >>
                                                            >> >> >> >>> **
                                                            >> >> >> >>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>> I haven't figured how to enable and use it yet.
                                                            >> >> >> >>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> ________________________________
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> From: mljones1947 <mljones1947@...
                                                            >> >> >> <mailto:mljones1947%40yahoo.com>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> To: editplus@yahoogroups.com <mailto:editplus%40yahoogroups.com
                                                            >> >
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:25 PM
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [edit+] Zen Coding
                                                            >> >> >> >>>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> The latest version of EditPlus supports something called Zen
                                                            >> >> >> Coding. I
                                                            >> >> >> >>>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>> had no idea what that was until I just went looking for an
                                                            >> >> >> explanation.
                                                            >> >> >> >>> Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia
                                                            >> >> >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Coding)
                                                            >> >> >> >>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> <excerpt>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> Zen Coding uses a specific syntax in order to expand small
                                                            >> >> >> snippets of
                                                            >> >> >> >>>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>> code, similar to CSS selectors, into full-fledged HTML code. For
                                                            >> >> >> example,
                                                            >> >> >> >>> the sequence
                                                            >> >> >> >>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> div#page>div.logo+ul#navigation>li*5>a
                                                            >> >> >> >>>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> expands into
                                                            >> >> >> >>>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> <div id="page">
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> <div class="logo"></div>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> <ul id="navigation">
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> <li><a href=""></a></li>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> </ul>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> </div>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> The expand abbreviations function includes several other complex
                                                            >> >> >> >>>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>> functions, such as wrapping a section of code with expanded code.
                                                            >> >> >> >>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> </excerpt>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>>
                                                            >> >> >> >>>> Geez, I retired just in time! My feeble old brain couldn't
                                                            >> handle
                                                            >> >> >> this
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                                                          • John C Craig
                                                            I love Editplus, and have been using the zen coding feature since it was added to the previous version. If you use Editplus for HTML/CSS coding you really
                                                            Message 29 of 29 , Nov 2, 2012
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                                                              I love Editplus, and have been using the zen coding feature since it was
                                                              added to the previous version. If you use Editplus for HTML/CSS coding you
                                                              really should take a close look at it. Now that I have Editplus 3.5 I
                                                              checked, and no, there's still no supporting documentation in the Help
                                                              files for zen coding. I took the time to pull together a complete set of
                                                              documentation on zen coding and published it in a very economical Kindle
                                                              book. ($2.99) You don't have to have a Kindle either, just download
                                                              Amazon's free reader program, or use their web based cloud reader. So, if
                                                              this interests you you can read more on Amazon's page...
                                                              http://amzn.to/SFiT96 Meanwhile, is there any chance there'll be
                                                              documentation for zen coding right in the Editplus help files? It's a
                                                              fantastic feature for those of us editing web content, a perfect compliment
                                                              to Editplus.


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