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5913Re: Scrolling with the mouse scroll wheel when a window is "split"

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  • Michael L. Jones
    May 8 2:17 PM
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      Let's see if we agree on a couple of things: Pressing a key should
      perform some action in the window (considering lists and splits as
      windows) that has focus. The scroll wheel should scroll the window
      that has focus.

      If we agree on that, then the question becomes: Can two different
      windows have focus, one for the keyboard and one for the mouse?
      Microsoft thinks that the answer is no. In Windows, the operating
      system, windows only get focus for the mouse when you click in them,
      not when the mouse moves over them.

      Open Windows Explorer with the folder list displayed and play around
      with it. It behaves exactly like EditPlus. This makes sense, since
      most Windows-specific programs use native Windows controls or
      something subclassed from them.

      Now open Firefox, display the bookmarks or history list on the left
      and play around with it. It behaves the way you prefer. (I'm
      sure that there are other examples besides Firefox, but it's what came
      to mind.) Could this be because Firefox is portable across operating
      systems and does not use native Windows controls? (Note that Internet
      Explorer behaves the same as Windows Explorer.)

      So, which is correct? I'd say that EditPlus is following the Windows
      standard, good or bad, established by Microsoft. I think that your
      complaint should be directed to Windows, not to EditPlus.

      --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, "DBaldon" <dbaldon@...> wrote:
      > I'm back. [;;)]
      > This issue has come up again as I'm dealing with the same issue in
      > another program (it's author has reproduced the problem but has no
      > resolution yet). I observed the same behavior yesterday in the Directory
      > window. I have mine set so the top 1/3 is for folders and the bottom 2/3
      > for files. If I single click a folder (not opening it) and then try to
      > scroll the list with the mouse wheel it doesn't scroll. Now if I move
      > the mouse over the pane where a file would be, the scroll wheel works.
      > The same applies to the files section of the Directory window. Comparing
      > that to the behavior of a document pane, it will scroll only when the
      > mouse is within it's borders. This is the way I believe things should
      > work. Actually I don't think you should have to click a window first
      > before being able to scroll it. Just having the mouse over the window
      > should cause that window to scroll. I believe this is a matter of being
      > aware of which window the mouse is in and then sending the scroll events
      > to that window.
      > BTW, I'm now using v3.01 (446)
      > --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, "DBaldon" <dbaldon@> wrote:
      > >
      > > I'm just now getting back to looking into this. The first thing I did
      > > was download the latest version and fixes to see if the behavior was
      > > changed. For me, it has not not. The same behavior I described in my
      > > original post still exists.
      > >
      > > --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, "Michael L. Jones" mljones1947@
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > I can't reproduce the behavior you described. When I click in either
      > > > pane to give it focus, that pane scrolls with the mouse scroll wheel
      > > > no matter where the mouse pointer is located. (I am using the latest
      > > > beta version, so it's possible that something was fixed. BTW, a
      > > > release candidate is being tested, so the new version will probably
      > be
      > > > out be out soon.)
      > > >
      > > > Regarding scrolling based on mouse pointer position rather than
      > window
      > > > focus, I think that would violate the principle of the mouse
      > impacting
      > > > the window (pane, etc.) with focus.
      > > >
      > > > There is an "X-Mouse" setting in TweakUI that emulates the X-Windows
      > > > standard of giving focus to the window the mouse pointer is over.
      > > > Maybe you should investigate that.
      > > >
      > > > Oops. I just checked it out, and the split panes in EditPlus do not
      > > > receive focus when under the mouse pointer. Not being an X-Windows
      > > > guy, I don't know if the standard is supposed to apply to split
      > panes.
      > > > If it is, the problem is in the X-Windows emulation, because Excel
      > > > behaves the same as EditPlus.
      > > >
      > > > --- In editplus@yahoogroups.com, "DBaldon" dbaldon@ wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > I have noticed that if I have a window split (using the splitter
      > bar
      > > > > or Split command) I have to have the mouse pointer in the lower
      > pane
      > > > > for the scrolling to occur in the upper pane. If the lower pane
      > has
      > > > > the focus the mouse pointer can be in either the upper or lower
      > pane
      > > > > and the scrolling will occur. It seems to me that the pane that
      > has
      > > > > the focus should scroll regardless of the location of the mouse
      > > > > pointer OR the pane that the mouse pointer is over should scroll.
      > My
      > > > > personal preference is the latter. I don't think you should need
      > to
      > > > > change the focus for the scrolling to occur.
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
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